I told you before, bet for Argentina because they will win the world cup
I fell asleep, woke up, and there was a 2nd team in the finals. Boring game.
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@shreyansmaini to me too. both teams should have 6.0 ratings ^^
@alexreg wrong weights for the parameters learn it
@alexreg agreed, not sure what Messi did to deserve anywhere near an 8.4
@alexreg @alexreg totally agree about Mascherano. He was dominant. He had a ten minute shaky spell after getting his head whacked, but other than that he was a pillar of reliability and strength.
@alexreg well he did create two clear cut goal scoring opportunities that were not taken by maxi roriguez and palcios and in 2 half extra time. Even though messi like robben had avg game but both of them still played like game changer.
Robben at 6.8. Maybe i watching the wrong game otherwise all good things were created through Robben. He played like Maradona. Infact when he took on 3 argentina player at the same time in argentinan D. He was unfortunate not score. Hazard was nullified by Mascherano but not Robben he made mockery of otherwise solid argentina defense. All goal scoring chances had robben name in it. Except for one passed played by Kyut to Wijnaldum. Otherwise it was robben show. 6.6 rating is stupidity, mockery to the beautiful game football and 0nly man of the match rating would do for me. Vlar at 8.9 plz. He was lucky not to be exposed coz Argentina were playing cautious game. Not derserivng of 8.9. Never......................................................................
@Ffaris I stopped reading when you said he played like Maradona. This was quite arguably Robben's least effective game in the tournament. Mascherano had 4 tackles in the game and I wouldn't be surprised if all of them were on Robben. Mascherano made a game saving tackle at the end of the 90. Vlaar missed the penalty but other than that he was clearly the best player on the pitch followed by Masch in a close 2nd. Yes, you were probably watching the wrong game.
@TheFactsProvider it was not as much effective considering both argentina and holland were playing cautious game. Vlar come on he was not seriously being challeged by argentina attack especially second half. All Vlar other did was pass pass pass. Maschrano i can agree on. He made scintillating. Like i said b4 all of Hoolland goal scoring opportunities came from Robben. except 1 through ball by Kyut.
@Ffaris Go and watch over the game. Vlaar was great in the game (other than his miss penalty), even the pundits were saying the same after. It seemed as if Argentina was not seriously challenging because he and de Vrij were so solid at the back. Robben is the Netherlands best player and should be making most of the scoring opportunities.
Robben at 6.8 maybe i watching the wrong game otherwise all good things were created through Robben. He played like Maradona. Infact when took on 3 player at the same time in argentina. He was unfortunate not score. Hazard was nullified by Mascherano but not Robben he made mockery of otherwise solid argentina defense. All goal scoring chances had robben name in it. Except for one passed played by Kyut to Wijnaldum. Otherwise it was robben show. 6.6 is stupidity and 0ny man of the match would do for me. Vlar at 8.9 plz. He lcuky not to be exposed coz Argentina were playing cautious game. Not derserivng of 8.9
lol messi has higher rating than macherano... oh wait, dribbles.
Van Gaal did well in match tactic, but he made a big mistake. If Van Persie take the first kick, the result may change. So, In conclusion, Van Gaal is rubbish also, useless!
@jayvin83 van Persie was subbed off, so how could he have taken the first penalty? o____O
Holland eternal loosers.
I told argentina to the final and holland will take the 3rd place
Everyone calls romero as a clown including me. Everyone prefered caballero,speroni. But romero saved argentina
Vlaar - very poor shot.
Sneijder made a mistake shooting the same place as he did with Costa Rica.
Romero was good, but he always chose side Dutchman were shooting in 1/4.
Can Romero at least get a 7.5 for saving two penalties. And Messi 8.4? Psh they really are sucking messi's dick here.
@XeneizeRuloso A penalty shootout is to determine the winner of a match after it has ended without a winner. Penalty shootouts aren't considered part of the match hence why players won't get their goal credited with the rest they have scored in the tournament. So Messi for example will stay on 4 goals for the tournament even thought he scored in the shootout. It may sound stupid but that's how it is.
Thanks, Cpt. Obvious.
@El_Duderino You're welcome.
Like I said last night,that Argentina is going to the next round and thus it has happen this night. Believe it or not Argentina will lift this cap and Messi is best player the world has ever had.
LOL. Like today? Tramping around the middle, poor passing, lots of lost possessions, some useless dribbles, three good passes and that's it.
Without Mascherano there ain't no Argentina.
He's their best player in this Cup.
in what logic does messi get 8.4 ?!
Vamos Argentinaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Love you Romero, "El Monstro."
Good Job!! Rubben go back Holland!! Very good!!
Germany to win, surely.
No wonder van Gaal had no confidence in Cillessen in the first shootout.
FINAAAAAAAAAAL !!!!!! VAMOOOS ARGENTINA !!!!!!!!
@El_Duderino. whoscored's rating system favours dribbles. a lot. basically if messi goes in a corner and does 20 useless dribbles then goes on the side and enjoys a beer while doing nothing for the rest of the game, he'll still get a perfect 10.
@DiM did you know that if he had good team mates upfront they could have won the game in 90 mins through his dribbling? looser
@El_Duderino not really. When players play 120 mins they pick up a higher rating than in 90. Plus, he created quite a few good chances. He also drew a few fouls. I see you under literally every game he plays complaining about his rating. Is that the only thing you ever concentrate on during a game?
How could i concentrate on Messi during today's game?
He was nowhere near the ball for 110 minutes.
"When players play 120 mins they pick up a higher rating than in 90"
It's football, not marathon.
we deserved it
none of both teams deserved it... it was like a slow chess game 0:0 over 120min
@footballforlife Hardly. Argentina hasn`t produced 1 game this tournament where they truly dominated. They`ve only one by one goal in every game. But thats football I guess.
GOOD LUCK ROMERO !!!!
@AndreyNosatii what was that? lol Lol Lol LOL lol LOl lol LLLol
@DelJuve yeah,Romero is a goalkeeper :D
Mascherano is perfect!
Neither team deserves to be in the final!
@neumi17 Who else deserves to be there then? Brazil? Spain? Don't make me laugh.
@TheFactsProvider well both Brazil and Spain were screwed over by their managers making the worst decisions in world cup history whereas Holland and Argentina were more than lucky to get this far, Argentina shouldn't have beaten Belgium they got one lucky goal then relied on the ref giving them free kicks every 2 minutes
And stalling since 20th minute.
Mascherano is the best player of Argentine in this game.
And yet Messi has best rating, what a "surprise" :)
Four passes, some useless dribbling - 8.4.
And in a minute it's gonna go up.
Did RvP give his all scoring the superman goal against Spain? He was out of the world in that match, has been an utter disappointment since then.
No goals in 90 minutes? Seems like none of the team wants to go to the final to be Germany's prey! ;)
Mmmm i guess costa rica will win this ;)
Go Tahiti :D
People complaining about the match being boring, why can't people appreciate the tight and tense side of the game?
@FootballFanatic they arent ppl its me :D
And i got 5 dislikes -.-
How can Messi be the 2nd best player of the game for Argentina ?
@Yoanninho10 *whoscored* !!
@Yoanninho10 I'm assuming this is a rhetorical question. We know dribbles are overrated in this, stop complaining about the same old subject people always talk about on this to try and get likes.
it's not about likes.
It's about the change, they should fix that, cuz it looks like they deliberately biased.
I mean, Messi disappear in the second half, got like three passes since and one good action in ET. And from 7.3 in first half he goes 8.4.
8.4? Khedira yesterday got 8.5, Klose 8.1.
It's football, not math.
Messi has almost become an ordinary player.
I try very hard not to fall asleep, but they're not helping.
Vlaar is class
except in shooting goals...
No shots for Robben or RVP? I am actually not surprised lol. Go Holland. Which ever teams I support ends uo losing. So FORZA Nederlend.
Like if u agree that this match is BoRiNggggggggggg :D
Indi didn't get booked for his first foul, but was shown yellow for that second nothing.
And how on earth Demichelis is still on the pitch?
That was ridiculous, he wasn't even aiming for the ball, just for Sneijder's leg.
mascherano needs a brain scan for checking whether there is any blood congestion inside of it !! You cannot let him continue playing after an accident like that
@khoies apparently he doesnt have a brain...
mascherano is allowed to continue after he fainted on the field? wtf is that doctor thinking? i just hope nothing bad happens.
Why is perez getting the points when you can clearly see Lavezzi and him have switched places. The system does not take this into consideration.
De jong in the starting lineup?!?!?! Great!!!
Holand 3 - 2 Argentina
Argentina will win the world cup, bet now so you won't regret later
@Zootball Utd will win Champions league next season
u both are funny
REMUNTADA for 98 !!! Vamos Albiceleste!!! Vamos Argentina!!!
i think if de jong is fit messi will disappear like certain malaysian aircraft. i also believe that if holland makes it to the final their attack with robben is the most suitable for exploiting germany's weaknesses in the defense.
Holland will play better and crash brazil to win 3rd place
Thought Argentina would just win with Di Maria fit, now I actually think the Dutchies will win. Maybe, after penalties or ET. 2-1 holland with Robben and Huntelaar scoring. Higuan scoring for the Argies.
Hopefully all adidas final
@Rask no way.. always two different brands ;) adidas (ger) vs nike (net) you will see (y)
why is Argentina the favorite? I think in overall Netherlands has a better team while Argentina relies too much on Messi.
If Netherlands win then result = 6-0
If there is a Draw then result = UNKNOWN
If Argentina win then result = 0-1
NETHERLANDS 4 ARGENTINA 1
This game is gonna be a fabulous game.if only Germany could face the dutch people in the finals its gonna be fantasticcccccccccccccc
I don't think aguero will start because playing with three players don't help team in defense against holland is madness
NED 1-1 ARG, ARG wins on penalties, because Krul gets sent off during them for un-sportsmanship behavior.
netherlands will win. because their sponsor is nike. you know that wc final always happens between two different brand. :)
Hope Netherlands will win
I still strong believe that Argentina will win tomorrow's match, despite the disappointment from Brazil today.that doosn't mean they too will loose as well,Netherlands 1-3 Argentina.
I had thought Strootman's absence would cost the Netherlands advancement from the group stage, now I think it might be what stops them from winning the whole thing. 1-0 to Argentina I think, alas.
This is Messi's time. I'd f***ing love to see him take Argentina throught just to stop this illogical, boring, repetitive and annoying claim that Messi can't be the best play ever if he doesn't win a world cup. Both Messi and Ronaldo are in the top 10 players of all time. Anybody who disagrees is trying too hard to be original or is living in the past.
btw football is a teamsport and you can see at Brazil what may happen when the whole team rely on just 1 player ...
@benchmark04 I'm not sure what you're getting at.
are you kidding ?? obviously Netherlands will win and not less than 2-0
You will see .
@yovansterling obviously .. are you kidding ?
if brazil wins today,it is argentina who wins tomorrow.if germany wins today,tommorow's match reaches penalty shootout with argentina winning 4-3
This might end up as the feared Messi vs Robben since the remaining attacking forces seem to lack form (Higuain, Aguero, v Persie). This could end up in a clinical 1-0
if brazil pulls it out today i'll place money on argentina to meet them in the finals... that would be heaps more motivation for the argentine side in my opinion
or they want to lose today, just to have the chance to beat Brazil in the last game :D
technically netherlans vs germany is the final but who knows its football ;D
I think Netherlands will win this match....
If it is in regular time i bet Netherlands 1-0 Argentina
In penalties Netherlands could win.
Argentina can play both styles of possession and counter attack as we saw against Belgium but holland is better at counter attack and not good enough when playing possession style . If holland score first I think it will areply for spain match . But if argentina score first it will be an open match and is everything can happen
2or3-0 for Nederland .. oranjes will win this one
Dutch should do the same as what they did to Chile (and without De Jong). Tight midfield and block Messi. They could block Sanchez, who was playing as good as Messi. And sneak in 2 goals in the second half..
While watching Costa Rica contain the Dutch, and rememebring the Socceroos giving the Dutch a scare, the thought came that Argentina will shade this match. Will Romero be good enough? Messidepencia? Who cares. If he fires then this will be too much for the Dutch. Here's me broken spanish: me gusta dos gol para Messi
Argentina ate aqui , pegou jogos mais faceis desde a fase de grupos , acho que holanda ganha , ficandos argentinos para disputar terceiro lugar contra alemanha:)
@pablo.fernandes.18294 se for pro final, brasil vera argentina rapaz
@pablo.fernandes.18294 e ainda ganharia o brasil no jogo da taca
luck for argentina seems that di maria will play Saturday for third place!!!
I think argentina will play as they did against Belgium looking for the first goal and killing the match I think argentina win 1-0
@abderrahmen27 they were lucky to get that goal and DiMaria was present to help them in the first 30 minutes. I think Argentina's time to lose has come
I guess this is the match in which the MVP will be decided. Robben has by far been the most outstanding player in this tournament, showing his class in every single match. Messi hasn't been playing anywhere near as good as Robben, but if he excells in this match, most people won't remember previous matches. He'll probably end up topscorer if Argentina win here and play well in the final. But i just don't see that happening. Argentina have been playing poorly and have a barely mediocre defence. I'm expecting (hoping?) that Robben and Van Persie tear them up. 2-0
There is no chance you are biased, is there? :)
And unless you think winning 3 games with a stunner and 1 with perfect assist is worse than winning one game with diving then you really have a point. More dribbles, 2x more created chances and 3x more key passes, well I guess that is also no factor for you. :). 4 MOTM awards (absolute record) is also worse than Robben's three? I guess you are right.
When I see people compare Robben to Messi it makes me sick to my stomach. Robben can't play anything else but on the right side going for the middle and trying to find a way to have a penalty. Messi makes Argentina play. He is their no1 playmaker.
I am really affraid of Robben's dramatic diving. It can be an issue.
@blitz Oh yes i'm definitely biased :D. But saying that Robben only won one game, by diving, is a bit strange in my opinion. Against Spain Robben scored twice, 2-1 and 5-1, so he pretty much decided the game. Against Australia he scored the opening goal and was, same as the matches against Chili and Mexico, a constant threat. He didn't dive in the penalty moment against Marquez, you can clearly see he was tripped. With his speed, every touch will get you off balance. James has been outstanding, absolutely wonderful, but Robben has been in a league of his own in every single game, with every single touch.
A penalty, maaybe. A penalty to decide a quater finalist in the WC? No freaking way dude! And if that was natural fall that Arjen did, then I can fly like a bird. It was his trademark flight like he suddenly was shot by a AK47. I like Robben don't get me wrong :)
We'll see what happens in the rest of the tournament but it can go either way really. It's hard being Messi fan in this kind of enivroment, CR fans are really crazy these days, They are scarry too. They hate Messi because he can't be touched at the top..
I say 0:0 or 1:0 or 0:1 is the score. Possible penalties too. It's semis so, I only know I will enjoy watching it.
@DutchDelight James Rodriguez has been better than Messi, Robben and Robin combined. 6 goals and 2 assists in 5 games. You may not like it but it's the truth and all the facts are there to see.
@TheFactsProvider exactly Robben can eat dirt like all the downvoters AND the whole holland NT ;)
a couple of them were just tap-ins or penaltys.
@TheFactsProvider well James Rodriguez is out of the World Cup so it is useless just like Cristiano's goals and assists. Anyway Argentina will lose because of DiMaria's absence
@smb26 Robben's diving is useless and quite frankly embarrassing, but let's not talk about that.
@TheFactsProvider . Correct. When you talk about diving, talk about the diving by all players, not just Robben. And when you talk about Robben, talk about all the mesmerizing runs, breathtaking goals, and the fouls he suffers through out the matches
@astar The guy was talking about Robben, not all the other players who dive. So your point is irrelevant.
@astar Exactly. You don't hear anyone talking about the Mexican defender who BROKE HIS SHIN BONE trying to tackle Robben inside the 16 and how he was not awarded a penalty for that. I'm getting sick of all this talk about how he cheats or dives, when in fact he doesn't dive any more than any other good attacker, and that penalty against Mexico was justified. They stepped on his toe and a good defender knows not to do that to a guy like Robben.
@Ruffnekk Yes. Robben doesn't dive anymore and I haven't breathed in over 18 months.
@TheFactsProvider I wouldn't say Robben doesn't dive, but look at most top strikers. Suarez, Ronaldo, Balotelli, Sanchez, Muller, etc they all have this in their game, not just Robben. Like Ruffnek says, Moreno broke his leg while kicking Robben to the ground in the penalty area, but you don't hear Robben complain that he didn't get a penalty then. Marquez made a huge error tackling like that against Robben on full speed in the penalty area. That was a clear penalty.
@DutchDelight In your initial statement you mentioned Messi, Robben and Robin so I don't want to here about Suarez, Ronaldo, Balotelli, Sanchez and Müller. And just because they may or may not dive doesn't mean Robben should. Just because one player dives that means should do the same? Is this the way football should be taught? And Robben's diving is far worst than any of them anyway at this moment. I remember when people used to bash Suarez for his diving (this was even before his last 2 bites) but no one is to say anything bad about Robben right? Football fans are so hypocritical. And just so you know, Müller is not a striker, unless you're talking about Gerd Müller. Sanchez is also not a striker. There is a difference between a striker and a forward.
Robben hasn't seen any yellow card for diving.
when there's a contact it can't be a dive technically,
and every professional player is trying to indicate to the ref that there was a foul
@benchmark04 With these dodgy referees officiating these games of course they haven't given him a yellow card for diving.
3-0 for Netherland
@Sinaj boy I love to read that cocky crap in retrospect. It pays off to be humble.
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