Atletico are good but not that good. Barcelona over the 2 meetings in the Copa and in the league game showed they have Atletico in their pocket, and especially in their last game Atletico had to resort to violence getting 10 yellow cards and 2 red cards....and then they claim to not be a violent team. Real Madrid will not be able to beat Atletico if Ancelotti doesnt understand that he is playing tactically wrong against them. Just play them the way they play you. You got faster wingers, you got more technical midfield...you just have to organize your defending. What Atletico does is against equal or worse teams they play normal football and when they score they defend with everyone and only get 3 players counter attacking at a time...whereas when they play against big teams they defend from the outset and go for the draw...if they score they just defend deeper.....if they concede they still defend deep but attack with 4 and quickly run back to defend when they lose posession....
@Turan Why do you think we won the Champions League? We were lucky to score at the last minute and go to extra time. Because of the fact that Atletico run alot more then Real Madrid and they got tired. They gave it all in 90 minutes and were absolutely exhausted after the 90 mins. This is what they do in the league aswell and why they are up there...because they always defend deep and only attack with a few players at a time who run back and defend as soon as they lose posession of the ball. Also have you seen Atletico move the ball around in defence? no.....they have clear instructions to kick the ball forward and play the game in the opposition half or at worst in the middle. It seems so obvious the way Simeone thinks and the way Atletico play that one would expect Ancelotti to spot it and not get humiliated like yesterday. The team has been looking not so stable since Modric got injured. The 22 win run happened because Real Madrid played against inferior sides.
@Turan "Because of the fact that Atletico run alot more then Real Madrid and they got tired. They gave it all in 90 minutes and were absolutely exhausted after the 90 mins."
Don't forget the fact that Real had more time resting before CL final, coz they lost la liga. Plus Atletico had two crucial counter-elements injured (Costa&Arda). Plus they played almost entire season with 13 players, hence no rotation. Plus they lost Filipe Luis before the Ramos equalizer. Plus Juanfran got injured in extras, with no subs left, he limped. Vultures took notice of that, constructing 2 goals on his flank.
@Turan Kroos without Modric has been average, he doesnt go strong into challenges and is always conserving energy. Ronaldo has started 2015 terribly, not only does he not score but he also is overall performing below average. Bale scored goals but he has not consistency, he seems to only be able to dribble past defenders with pace and his passing, judgement are poor. Marcelo has been decent and Carvajal apart from the Atletico games has been ok. Varane not looking bright lately. Isco has been the only light in the darkness, his skill is above all other currently playing midfielders. Perhaps Bale should learn from Isco how to protect the ball and how to dribble. Benzema has never been super, but lately he has been a click better then he was in previous years.
this is crazy! no intensity no nothing! Bale and Ronaldo with Benzema were terrible! they couldn't get past defenders down the wings! Cassillas was not fit! the most terrible match i have ever seen! why should someone like Lukas Silva stay on the bench while Khedira is terrible? Why should someone like Illarramendi be in the first team?!
Hats down for Simeone, a master mind! His players were simply brilliant and although not leading possession but lead Real the way they wanted. Perfect game!
Finally best player in the world ownned this penalty-inflated forced second-best fake-great failman on ratings in league. MotM and average rating on league+CL were already there.
Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's. Amen.
@meshuggah- Both Ronaldo and Messi have inflated records because they play in a league where the defences of the bottom 10 teams are the level of the English championship. They still may be the best 2 in the world, Messi certainly the most talented, but Ronaldo hasn't gotten any better or more consistent than when he played for Man Utd but consistently scores many more goals. His last 3 seasons for Utd he scored 23, 42 and 26 goals in 53, 49 & 53 games respectively and that's with having the same licence as he does at Real. Apart from his 1st season at Real, he has scored a goal per game worst case scenario. The only differences being the quality of opposition and of course being penalty taker without fail.
@SteveHyland "because they play in a league where the defences of the bottom 10 teams are the level of the English championship".
Utterly clueless comment.
Bayern 0-4 Madrid
Chelsea 1-3 Atleti
Madrid 3-0 BvB
Atleti 4-1 Milan
The point is LaLiga has two ultra-strong extra-high scoring sides. Exclude Barca & Real + top two scoring english sides from the sample and then calculate goals concede pg to evaluate the quality of defences
@SteveHyland Why others in La Liga fail to reach the numbers of Messi and CR then? What proof on the thesis of weak defences can you give, besides "imho"? Don't you know that there are basically same figures on goals scored (hence conceded) per game in England and Spain (2,57 vs 2,62 for 2014-15)? In Holland where the attack is cultivated they have 3,2.
Torres (in Liverpool), Aguero, Costa score more than in La Liga. What it tells you about the quality of english backs?
I lol'd so hard!! Are Real still los galacticos? who needs thibaut courtois, diego costa and filipe luis if Atletico had showed us how to play football flawlessly? once again, LOL !!!!
Where's the "best player in the world" again? individually he should have done better but if his teammates plays poorly, he plays just as bad if not worse. but credit to AM making difficult for RM.
Love how a well drilled and a team full of hunger embarrassed the so club "champions of Europe" yet again. Just shows that you can come out on top when you're passionate and hard working enough to win and even when you've not got all those 100m players and supported by dodgy spanish banks and their loans to save your lives.....
Business as usual. The favorite team wins by a large margin against the underdog, that coulnd`t convince one more time. Real should just surrender the 3 points before each match against Atletico...
Another retarded foul from Jese. A sort of thing only crybabies would do. Not sure why RM players think that they've a divine right to win every game and if not then its definitely the opposition's fault so "lets kick and harm them". Some really intelligent lads they've got there in Madrid....
@TacticalMastermind- Illaranebdi will almost certainly leave Real in the summer hence Ancelotti's reluctance to start him regularly. He also doesn't sell as many shirts as Khedira, Isco etc.
This is only 3 points lost, Real Madrid are still leaders but a huge blow from a phsycological point of view, Atletico showing they are the boss in Madrid. Dissapointing to see Ancelotti being unable to spot the problem playing against Atletico....he should at least learn a few things and next time show us a team with better performance then today.
Is it me or does it seem like Ancelotti is unable to at least tactically prepare the team. You know Atletico play defensively, with intensity and going strong on challenges. Would it not be at least worth trying playing them the same way they play you and by that i mean use extra player in midfield to fill in the gaps and dont go for posession...just let them come and then counter with Ronaldo and Bale?
@Turan You can't counter a team that plays with a deep defensive line. Real should operate with wall passes, quick one-two's to create situations for long range efforts in front of the box, + a lot better organized back 4.
@tshibuabua You can't counterattack Atletico? They got counterattacked pretty hard by Barca which last time around which isn't even a counter attacking team by any means.
Imagine what CR7 and Bale could've done in counter attacks!
@tshibuabua well at least make it a midfield battle. What Ancelotti doesnt seem to grasp is that he cant have Ronaldo,Bale and Benzema up front and then the rest running like headless chicken. Atletico is good at defending because ALL players return and mark as soon as they lose posession. What happened today was just humiliating for a team wanting to be feared and respected by others.
@Turan Kroos too soft for these type of games, should be benched. A derby like this is won with heart and giving everything. He simply wont put his leg in dangerous situations and that is where Atletico midfield win the battles in the middle.
Real should play with 4-2-3-1 and counter attacking like mourinho team and avoid playing like barca's possesion based game.Only then Real can utilize CR7 and Bale properly.
Khedira is playing like he is on a holiday. Benching illara for incompetant player surely shows we're trying to leech in some bucks when we're to sell him so that we wont be left be peanuts but some millions
Admit it anceloto don't have any plans except motivational speech. He is terrible, knowing for past 6 matches he used same strategy which is not working, he should have done home work and should have came up with plan. Inclusion of khedira is lack of belief in illara. He is seriously better talent than khedira. Casillas is done now. Should go for De gea or lloris. Also real should think of reus and make cr7 play as striker and reus and bale as wings.
..aforetime, the result of this match had already been known because the main Real Madrid playmakers are out; other are just supportive. Atletico all the way!!
If Real lose this match, they will be still on top. But if Atletico lose They will lose the chance to retain the La Liga champion title. So they will play at their best to earn victory. Go for it Atletico !
Definitely a draw. Even Cristiano's comeback won't help that much against Atletico. However, Simeone might spot an opportunity in Real's defensive absentees and open up a little - that can lead to a highscoring fixture.
Dont worry friends. I am sure today Real are gonna win this match and end Atletico's hope of retaining League title. CR7 will score 2 goals today and will be MOM.
@Imperial_J Here's something -
William Hill offers the longest odds on an Atleti victory, offering 3 euros for every euro spent. Meanwhile, Bet365 and Sportium have shorter odds at 2,87. Bwin and 888sport offer odds in-between, 2,95 and 2,90 respectively.
Odds on a win for Ancelotti’s team vary between 2,45 and 2,55 euros for every euro spent. Bwin offer the best odds, while Bet365, Sportium and 888sport offer the worst.
The best odds are on a derby draw at the Vicente Calderón. Almost all betting shops offer odds of around 3,40 euros. Only William Hill is an outlier, paying out 20 cents less.
With regards to goal scorers, Cristiano Ronaldo is the favourite to score at 1,90 euros for every euro spent. Mario Mandzukic is the Atleti player most backed to score, but Bwin offer longer odds on the Croatian scoring (2,90) than Chicharito Hernández (2,75), whose odds are the same as Gareth Bale’s.
I'm fervent and keenly looking forward to this derby , simply because we're depleted , this will be the test of our team spirit , carlo's ingenuity , ronaldo's character , bale's diligence , new defensive pair solidity ,benzema's constancy , isco's resolve , casillas galvanization. I believe we can win here !
@soul_snatcher
There is absolutely no chance you can win this game. Especially after the return of prima donna. I repeat, there is absolutely no way RM (as you say "we" for some reason) can win this game at Calderon. Be realistic for once. No Marcelo, no Ramos and no Luka. "You" are lucky if you end up with a draw.
Facing Atletico at their home Vicente Calderon is always a hard task, especially when you don't have best players in your team. Beside, Atletico has to win at any cost if they don't want to lose the race. But Real still has Ronaldo and Bale who can make a great threat to Atletico. So i think the result will be 2-1.
@Xuxibo6793 If Atleti doesnt play like UFC stars , ref is lenient with harsh fouls and gimmicks, their 2-3 players will be off , Real will have chance to capitalize.
Why the fuck you don't know there are some not available players? You say bullshits concerning players who are and who aren't available... Real Madrid misses at least three other players... Come on, whoscored, you are following the main championships and you can't even be careful...
This will be a true test for both teams. As much as I would want to see Real Madrid win, a tie is a safe prediction. However, this time of as @Turan mentioned below the game can be won through individual brilliance. I believe it will come down to Benzema drawing out Atletico's Godin or Miranda allowed Bale or Cristiano to cut inside and attacking, Karim will be keep in the BBC as I expect a well rested Ronaldo to light up the game. Nacho and Varane have very much to prove in this game, this is the time to shine. Physicality will be required, with Coentrão starting I expect extreme tackles, hopefully no red cards nor penalties for either team. Grizemann will be looking to show his compatriots Benzema and Varane that his side is worthy of an opponent. If Copa Del Rey taught anything a few weeks ago, is that the dominant Madrid team has been Atletico, however this is La Liga, and Madrid are marching towards the title. 3-2 will be the scoreline with a late goal from an unlikely hero...
There are only 2 ways of Real Madrid taking a win here. Either individual brilliance by Ronaldo/Bale, who truth is can make the diffrence at times. Otherwise a superb team display defensively is the only other way to win this game. Atletico is really good defending against Real Madrid and only Isco is capable of causing them trouble in tight spaces, so if Real Madrid go out all attack, they will probably concede more then they can score and lose this, whereas if they play smart and are tight at the back with lots of running from midfielders and forwards, they can perhaps score a goal or two and win this.
This will be a very tight game. Atletico will be fresher then Real Madrid since they didnt have a midweek game. Atletico is the only team that has made Real Madrid suffer so much this season, they beat Real Madrid in the spanish super cup and kicked them off the Copa del Rey. Its the way Atletico plays that makes it hard for Real Madrid to beat them, they are intense, aggressive, always playing on the edge of fouling, giving Real Madrid space and hitting them on the counter, giving them hard time marking Mandzukic who creates chaos with his head every time, not to mention set pieces and the many players that are good in the air. Especially now that Ramos and Pepe are missing there will be even more trouble for Real Madrid every time Atletico take set pieces. At the risk of sounding pessimistic, this is not a good time for Real Madrid to play against Atletico and at this point i think Real Madrid should be the ones considered underdogs.
I think the possible starting XI for this game is the following: Casillas,Carvajal,Varane,Nacho,Coentrao/Arbeloa,Isco,Kroos,Illara/Khedira,Bale,Ronaldo,Benzema. Basically if Coentrao is fit he will feature and depending on what Ancelotti prefers for this game we will see Khedira or Illara. Illara has better passing, better blocking, more running and at this point is fresher since he was rested vs Sevilla whereas Khedira is taller, better marker in set pieces, stronger and cant be outmuscled easily by aggressive Atletico midfield.
@commandozap Ancelotti hasnt revealed who he will start so i guess we will wait till tomorrow to see who starts. Coentrao if fit is better then Arbeloa imo. He has better technique, more speed, more aggressive and alot better going forward and crossing. So hopefully he is fully fit and he can play. As for the spot in midfield, i think we migt see Khedira keeping his spot following the game vs Sevilla...simply because Atletico always bully Real Madrid and hit them on set pieces, so even though he is alot worse then Illara with the ball, he is alot stronger and better at set pieces so, Ancelotti in my opinion will probably prefer him if he has recovered after the Sevilla game.
@Turan Sometimes i feel Carlo should come out of the laid back and predictable approach , take some risks and aim for menace. Bale , Benz , Ronaldo will be there to add some height during set-pieces , playing khedira is not even a smoke-screen or a red-herring. Illara or even throw in Lucas Silva or Medran would perplex Atleti & we can strike back after our winless streaks. Jese would be a good surprise as well as such games are where cantera players are pumped up more than others and he is on a tune as well
@Turan I hope Illara starts , he needs such matches to boost his morale. Arbeloa is on borrowed time , coentrao will give us defensive muscle in absense of ramos & pepe. Big day for Nacho & Varane
Our manager is befuddled. He doesnt rotate which is putting players in the worn-out zone , isco , ramos(thrice) , james (twice), pepe etc. He keeps benching illara who is clearly a much better defensive option than khedira. I'm sure he will even start bale instead of jese even when latter is in better form than bale who is becoming more of a one-trick pony.
@commandozap I don't think rotation is a problem, afterall Barcelona are breathing down their necks and are in great form at the moment. They are out of the copa so this means they play less and rest more. Ramos was warned in the club world cup that this hamstring injury will come back to haunt him, but he's a passionate player who wants to be in every game. Messi has a similar problem, those players don't want to be on the bench. James was purely unlucky. I think Madrid with their best 11 are struggling and rotation may not help at this point.
@wsamara We should rest regular mids , forwards and wingbacks against bottom 10 , it will only keep the bench happy and prepared subsequently keeping the starters fresh over the course of time. Bale should be given a chance in a derby nut jese deserves to play as well
Modric,Pepe,Ramos,James,Marcelo are 5 of Real Madrid's key players and all of them will be missing the derby. On top of that Coentrao had some injury problems, Bale and Benzema didnt look comfortable towards the end of the game vs Sevilla... not good signs, especially with the Champions League coming up.
@Turan It has been reported that James will have a surgery on the 5th metatarsal of his right foot meaning around 2 months absence. Ramos is estimated to miss 3 weeks of football. Not good news at all, if the injuries occured during the transfer window, at least a player could be loaned to replace James for the long period he will be missing. Considering Modric is still unavailable for a couple of weeks, the upcoming 4-6 games will see the team lacking balance as some key players will be missing at the same time. Hopefully no new injuries occur and everyone gets fully fit as soon as possible.
Top 3 best coaches: 1.simeone 2.löw 3. Mourinho
a running rape
0-4! wkwkw . That was really a football jokes :D Lol
Atletico are good but not that good. Barcelona over the 2 meetings in the Copa and in the league game showed they have Atletico in their pocket, and especially in their last game Atletico had to resort to violence getting 10 yellow cards and 2 red cards....and then they claim to not be a violent team. Real Madrid will not be able to beat Atletico if Ancelotti doesnt understand that he is playing tactically wrong against them. Just play them the way they play you. You got faster wingers, you got more technical midfield...you just have to organize your defending. What Atletico does is against equal or worse teams they play normal football and when they score they defend with everyone and only get 3 players counter attacking at a time...whereas when they play against big teams they defend from the outset and go for the draw...if they score they just defend deeper.....if they concede they still defend deep but attack with 4 and quickly run back to defend when they lose posession....
@Turan Why do you think we won the Champions League? We were lucky to score at the last minute and go to extra time. Because of the fact that Atletico run alot more then Real Madrid and they got tired. They gave it all in 90 minutes and were absolutely exhausted after the 90 mins. This is what they do in the league aswell and why they are up there...because they always defend deep and only attack with a few players at a time who run back and defend as soon as they lose posession of the ball. Also have you seen Atletico move the ball around in defence? no.....they have clear instructions to kick the ball forward and play the game in the opposition half or at worst in the middle. It seems so obvious the way Simeone thinks and the way Atletico play that one would expect Ancelotti to spot it and not get humiliated like yesterday. The team has been looking not so stable since Modric got injured. The 22 win run happened because Real Madrid played against inferior sides.
@Turan "Because of the fact that Atletico run alot more then Real Madrid and they got tired. They gave it all in 90 minutes and were absolutely exhausted after the 90 mins." Don't forget the fact that Real had more time resting before CL final, coz they lost la liga. Plus Atletico had two crucial counter-elements injured (Costa&Arda). Plus they played almost entire season with 13 players, hence no rotation. Plus they lost Filipe Luis before the Ramos equalizer. Plus Juanfran got injured in extras, with no subs left, he limped. Vultures took notice of that, constructing 2 goals on his flank.
@Turan Kroos without Modric has been average, he doesnt go strong into challenges and is always conserving energy. Ronaldo has started 2015 terribly, not only does he not score but he also is overall performing below average. Bale scored goals but he has not consistency, he seems to only be able to dribble past defenders with pace and his passing, judgement are poor. Marcelo has been decent and Carvajal apart from the Atletico games has been ok. Varane not looking bright lately. Isco has been the only light in the darkness, his skill is above all other currently playing midfielders. Perhaps Bale should learn from Isco how to protect the ball and how to dribble. Benzema has never been super, but lately he has been a click better then he was in previous years.
this is crazy! no intensity no nothing! Bale and Ronaldo with Benzema were terrible! they couldn't get past defenders down the wings! Cassillas was not fit! the most terrible match i have ever seen! why should someone like Lukas Silva stay on the bench while Khedira is terrible? Why should someone like Illarramendi be in the first team?!
Ronaldo, another weak showdown against a top class team!
Hats down for Simeone, a master mind! His players were simply brilliant and although not leading possession but lead Real the way they wanted. Perfect game!
Mandzukic 1 goal 1 assist, 86% aerial wons, 5 tackles. what a boss 5 tackles at striker
Finally best player in the world ownned this penalty-inflated forced second-best fake-great failman on ratings in league. MotM and average rating on league+CL were already there. Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's. Amen.
@meshuggah- Both Ronaldo and Messi have inflated records because they play in a league where the defences of the bottom 10 teams are the level of the English championship. They still may be the best 2 in the world, Messi certainly the most talented, but Ronaldo hasn't gotten any better or more consistent than when he played for Man Utd but consistently scores many more goals. His last 3 seasons for Utd he scored 23, 42 and 26 goals in 53, 49 & 53 games respectively and that's with having the same licence as he does at Real. Apart from his 1st season at Real, he has scored a goal per game worst case scenario. The only differences being the quality of opposition and of course being penalty taker without fail.
@SteveHyland "because they play in a league where the defences of the bottom 10 teams are the level of the English championship". Utterly clueless comment. Bayern 0-4 Madrid Chelsea 1-3 Atleti Madrid 3-0 BvB Atleti 4-1 Milan
The point is LaLiga has two ultra-strong extra-high scoring sides. Exclude Barca & Real + top two scoring english sides from the sample and then calculate goals concede pg to evaluate the quality of defences
@SteveHyland Why others in La Liga fail to reach the numbers of Messi and CR then? What proof on the thesis of weak defences can you give, besides "imho"? Don't you know that there are basically same figures on goals scored (hence conceded) per game in England and Spain (2,57 vs 2,62 for 2014-15)? In Holland where the attack is cultivated they have 3,2. Torres (in Liverpool), Aguero, Costa score more than in La Liga. What it tells you about the quality of english backs?
Ronaldo got 5.6, iam so happy, cheers barca friends
@jayvin83 slightly better, than vs cordoba despite red card lol
@jayvin83 slightly better, than vs cordoba вузышеу red card lol
Simeone is a non-proclaimed special one , the real deal , no hubris.
@commandozap Best coach in the world by far and atleti is amongst top 3 contendors this ucl
@commandozap Simeone is a once in a decade coach , unprecedented.
No RM motor (Luka Modric), they play so bad!!!
@Gnjida They would have got owned anyway... don't forget RM's 12th man helped them avoid two more goals today. xD
@Gnjida Its that the best u've got??!!...LOL
@victor.ikoro I am not RM fan or Atletico fan, but that is fact!
casillas back in form like in brazil 2014
I lol'd so hard!! Are Real still los galacticos? who needs thibaut courtois, diego costa and filipe luis if Atletico had showed us how to play football flawlessly? once again, LOL !!!!
@masromie Los HADESticos
Complete Humiliation. :-(
Praise Simeone! D.S. ONE!
Ronaldo: Suspended for 2 games, not allowed to play for 3 games...
Cristiano Ronaldo's game by numbers vs. Atletico: 0 goals 0 shots on target 0 take-ons completed 0 chances created 0 crosses completed.
@AndreyNosatii Don't forget 3 fouls, 4 dives. ;)
@AndreyNosatii and 5.5 rate
hill hill ke nacho nacho...
@SYunusAli kyun vai
Real came to Vicente Calderón 4 nothing !!! ahahaha
17 - 2 Shots on goal in favour of Atletico ...lol
4-0 lmao
it's all about Simeone!
@brolylucia the best manager in the world, no doubt. His accomplishments with Atleti have been simply incredible.
glad i dint break my TV
Massacre !
Holy crap 4-0
Wow, money really isn't everything!
Let's show some respect for Diego Simeone and Atletico Madrid for their big win. They are the " real " MADRID now, admit that Real Fans
@Xuxibo6793 True! Much Respect to D.S.ONE!!!!!
4-0? :0 :0 Oh my!!!!
Where's the "best player in the world" again? individually he should have done better but if his teammates plays poorly, he plays just as bad if not worse. but credit to AM making difficult for RM.
Love how a well drilled and a team full of hunger embarrassed the so club "champions of Europe" yet again. Just shows that you can come out on top when you're passionate and hard working enough to win and even when you've not got all those 100m players and supported by dodgy spanish banks and their loans to save your lives.....
Didn't see that coming :O
Business as usual. The favorite team wins by a large margin against the underdog, that coulnd`t convince one more time. Real should just surrender the 3 points before each match against Atletico...
Props up to simeone and saul , brilliant all the way
Carlo has no plan B its clear
Another retarded foul from Jese. A sort of thing only crybabies would do. Not sure why RM players think that they've a divine right to win every game and if not then its definitely the opposition's fault so "lets kick and harm them". Some really intelligent lads they've got there in Madrid....
Illarramendi should have been the first name on the team sheet for Real Madrid in a game like this. Epic fail from Ancelotti
@TacticalMastermind- Illaranebdi will almost certainly leave Real in the summer hence Ancelotti's reluctance to start him regularly. He also doesn't sell as many shirts as Khedira, Isco etc.
This is only 3 points lost, Real Madrid are still leaders but a huge blow from a phsycological point of view, Atletico showing they are the boss in Madrid. Dissapointing to see Ancelotti being unable to spot the problem playing against Atletico....he should at least learn a few things and next time show us a team with better performance then today.
Ronaldo on a 5.7 :D lol. Real Madrid do not look like a title winning team, this is not their year.
"cr7 is the best player in the world"
@iAgx360 Best joke ever!!
@victor.ikoro tbh in this game he looks closer to the level of the worst player in the world than that of the best...
@victor.ikoro never here in a big match
CHICHARITO WILL TURN THIS GAME AROUND. said no one ever
@Lucasfernandes Second best joke!!
Surprised its 'only'. Atletica are tearing them a new one.
@NotBiased *only 3-0 , *atletico
Is it me or does it seem like Ancelotti is unable to at least tactically prepare the team. You know Atletico play defensively, with intensity and going strong on challenges. Would it not be at least worth trying playing them the same way they play you and by that i mean use extra player in midfield to fill in the gaps and dont go for posession...just let them come and then counter with Ronaldo and Bale?
@Turan You can't counter a team that plays with a deep defensive line. Real should operate with wall passes, quick one-two's to create situations for long range efforts in front of the box, + a lot better organized back 4.
@tshibuabua You can't counterattack Atletico? They got counterattacked pretty hard by Barca which last time around which isn't even a counter attacking team by any means. Imagine what CR7 and Bale could've done in counter attacks!
@tshibuabua well at least make it a midfield battle. What Ancelotti doesnt seem to grasp is that he cant have Ronaldo,Bale and Benzema up front and then the rest running like headless chicken. Atletico is good at defending because ALL players return and mark as soon as they lose posession. What happened today was just humiliating for a team wanting to be feared and respected by others.
@Turan Kroos too soft for these type of games, should be benched. A derby like this is won with heart and giving everything. He simply wont put his leg in dangerous situations and that is where Atletico midfield win the battles in the middle.
@Turan yes, he's a playmaker not a destroyer at the defensive midfield
no penal no party
Bale should have been book. But yeah playing for Real Madrid definitely has its perks....
Real should play with 4-2-3-1 and counter attacking like mourinho team and avoid playing like barca's possesion based game.Only then Real can utilize CR7 and Bale properly.
NEXT goal By real madrid
@Prediction Nope It's Atletico
We can still win this if we show that spark we showed descending from 35th minute
Khedira is playing like he is on a holiday. Benching illara for incompetant player surely shows we're trying to leech in some bucks when we're to sell him so that we wont be left be peanuts but some millions
Our def midfield and defense are outrageously askewed
Admit it anceloto don't have any plans except motivational speech. He is terrible, knowing for past 6 matches he used same strategy which is not working, he should have done home work and should have came up with plan. Inclusion of khedira is lack of belief in illara. He is seriously better talent than khedira. Casillas is done now. Should go for De gea or lloris. Also real should think of reus and make cr7 play as striker and reus and bale as wings.
Looks like irina is still on ronaldo's head, even his diving is off pace
@levi22 dnt know abt penaldo...bt i think...she is still in ua haed....
@levi22 Don't blame a woman on a man's failure
@levi22 Nothing to do with her. It's just ATM's defense!
What the ... ? I can't beleive it ! ATLETICO POSSESSION 50,1
@Xuxibo6793 Each game it is getting worse for Madrid ...
I lobe the way atetico plays. I mean real players earn at least 5times atleti players do. But atletico players play for their team with their heart
..aforetime, the result of this match had already been known because the main Real Madrid playmakers are out; other are just supportive. Atletico all the way!!
#AncelottiOut ??
what a goal by Saul N.
This is just depressing
@levi22 no, my friend, this is great for football. Good old fashion 442 leading 2-0!
real's defending is abysmal.
Real defence is very lose and can accept 4-5 goals tonight
lol, Real Madrid meltdown haha!!
match is too graphic
If Real lose this match, they will be still on top. But if Atletico lose They will lose the chance to retain the La Liga champion title. So they will play at their best to earn victory. Go for it Atletico !
@Xuxibo6793 meaning, real madrid didn't need to take the match serious? or what do you mean dud?
@wizsod I mean Real can't win this match no matter how hard they try, they will fail again ...
I think Real to win here.
Definitely a draw. Even Cristiano's comeback won't help that much against Atletico. However, Simeone might spot an opportunity in Real's defensive absentees and open up a little - that can lead to a highscoring fixture.
Dont worry friends. I am sure today Real are gonna win this match and end Atletico's hope of retaining League title. CR7 will score 2 goals today and will be MOM.
I dont bet but
@Imperial_J Here's something - William Hill offers the longest odds on an Atleti victory, offering 3 euros for every euro spent. Meanwhile, Bet365 and Sportium have shorter odds at 2,87. Bwin and 888sport offer odds in-between, 2,95 and 2,90 respectively. Odds on a win for Ancelotti’s team vary between 2,45 and 2,55 euros for every euro spent. Bwin offer the best odds, while Bet365, Sportium and 888sport offer the worst. The best odds are on a derby draw at the Vicente Calderón. Almost all betting shops offer odds of around 3,40 euros. Only William Hill is an outlier, paying out 20 cents less. With regards to goal scorers, Cristiano Ronaldo is the favourite to score at 1,90 euros for every euro spent. Mario Mandzukic is the Atleti player most backed to score, but Bwin offer longer odds on the Croatian scoring (2,90) than Chicharito Hernández (2,75), whose odds are the same as Gareth Bale’s.
Can't wait for this match!
@Turan same here
how come james injury is not mentioned and marcelo is not injured but suspended,a site like this should not make such errors
Atletico Madrid 4 - 0 Real Madrid
@alexreg you must tell us now, who wins the league?
@rissvann Barça win it, but by less than 3 points. Make your bets now. ;)
@alexreg I've marked your words mate! You'll be my hero very soon :P
@alexreg A bit of credit for the prediction, folks? ;) Down-voters and cavernistas: EAT YOUR HEARTS OUT. xD
@alexreg hope its reverse
I'm fervent and keenly looking forward to this derby , simply because we're depleted , this will be the test of our team spirit , carlo's ingenuity , ronaldo's character , bale's diligence , new defensive pair solidity ,benzema's constancy , isco's resolve , casillas galvanization. I believe we can win here !
@soul_snatcher There is absolutely no chance you can win this game. Especially after the return of prima donna. I repeat, there is absolutely no way RM (as you say "we" for some reason) can win this game at Calderon. Be realistic for once. No Marcelo, no Ramos and no Luka. "You" are lucky if you end up with a draw.
@soul_snatcher I admire the way you use English!
@Turan Much obliged sir , i like your preview breakdowns as well. Can't wait for the game.
Most likely 2:1 for Atletico Madrid, considering the fact that it is at home in Calderon
0-3 for real madrid Hala Madrid
Facing Atletico at their home Vicente Calderon is always a hard task, especially when you don't have best players in your team. Beside, Atletico has to win at any cost if they don't want to lose the race. But Real still has Ronaldo and Bale who can make a great threat to Atletico. So i think the result will be 2-1.
@Xuxibo6793 If Atleti doesnt play like UFC stars , ref is lenient with harsh fouls and gimmicks, their 2-3 players will be off , Real will have chance to capitalize.
Ramos out for 4 weeks now , torn harmstring. James for 3 months Anims Ramos | Anims James Thanks for the sacrifice vikings , gws , we love you
Why the fuck you don't know there are some not available players? You say bullshits concerning players who are and who aren't available... Real Madrid misses at least three other players... Come on, whoscored, you are following the main championships and you can't even be careful...
This will be a true test for both teams. As much as I would want to see Real Madrid win, a tie is a safe prediction. However, this time of as @Turan mentioned below the game can be won through individual brilliance. I believe it will come down to Benzema drawing out Atletico's Godin or Miranda allowed Bale or Cristiano to cut inside and attacking, Karim will be keep in the BBC as I expect a well rested Ronaldo to light up the game. Nacho and Varane have very much to prove in this game, this is the time to shine. Physicality will be required, with Coentrão starting I expect extreme tackles, hopefully no red cards nor penalties for either team. Grizemann will be looking to show his compatriots Benzema and Varane that his side is worthy of an opponent. If Copa Del Rey taught anything a few weeks ago, is that the dominant Madrid team has been Atletico, however this is La Liga, and Madrid are marching towards the title. 3-2 will be the scoreline with a late goal from an unlikely hero...
@Xsim Cantera boys should shine in derby
@Xsim Nacho!!
Ramos, Pepe, Modric, James and Coentrao are injured! All of them won't play tommorow. Marcelo also won't play tommorow because he get 5 yellow cards.
I've a gut feeling we're gonna win this and a hero will rise just like a fairytale.
There are only 2 ways of Real Madrid taking a win here. Either individual brilliance by Ronaldo/Bale, who truth is can make the diffrence at times. Otherwise a superb team display defensively is the only other way to win this game. Atletico is really good defending against Real Madrid and only Isco is capable of causing them trouble in tight spaces, so if Real Madrid go out all attack, they will probably concede more then they can score and lose this, whereas if they play smart and are tight at the back with lots of running from midfielders and forwards, they can perhaps score a goal or two and win this.
This will be a very tight game. Atletico will be fresher then Real Madrid since they didnt have a midweek game. Atletico is the only team that has made Real Madrid suffer so much this season, they beat Real Madrid in the spanish super cup and kicked them off the Copa del Rey. Its the way Atletico plays that makes it hard for Real Madrid to beat them, they are intense, aggressive, always playing on the edge of fouling, giving Real Madrid space and hitting them on the counter, giving them hard time marking Mandzukic who creates chaos with his head every time, not to mention set pieces and the many players that are good in the air. Especially now that Ramos and Pepe are missing there will be even more trouble for Real Madrid every time Atletico take set pieces. At the risk of sounding pessimistic, this is not a good time for Real Madrid to play against Atletico and at this point i think Real Madrid should be the ones considered underdogs.
I think the possible starting XI for this game is the following: Casillas,Carvajal,Varane,Nacho,Coentrao/Arbeloa,Isco,Kroos,Illara/Khedira,Bale,Ronaldo,Benzema. Basically if Coentrao is fit he will feature and depending on what Ancelotti prefers for this game we will see Khedira or Illara. Illara has better passing, better blocking, more running and at this point is fresher since he was rested vs Sevilla whereas Khedira is taller, better marker in set pieces, stronger and cant be outmuscled easily by aggressive Atletico midfield.
@Turan Coentrao and Illara imo is the way forward.
@commandozap Ancelotti hasnt revealed who he will start so i guess we will wait till tomorrow to see who starts. Coentrao if fit is better then Arbeloa imo. He has better technique, more speed, more aggressive and alot better going forward and crossing. So hopefully he is fully fit and he can play. As for the spot in midfield, i think we migt see Khedira keeping his spot following the game vs Sevilla...simply because Atletico always bully Real Madrid and hit them on set pieces, so even though he is alot worse then Illara with the ball, he is alot stronger and better at set pieces so, Ancelotti in my opinion will probably prefer him if he has recovered after the Sevilla game.
@Turan Sometimes i feel Carlo should come out of the laid back and predictable approach , take some risks and aim for menace. Bale , Benz , Ronaldo will be there to add some height during set-pieces , playing khedira is not even a smoke-screen or a red-herring. Illara or even throw in Lucas Silva or Medran would perplex Atleti & we can strike back after our winless streaks. Jese would be a good surprise as well as such games are where cantera players are pumped up more than others and he is on a tune as well
@Turan I hope Illara starts , he needs such matches to boost his morale. Arbeloa is on borrowed time , coentrao will give us defensive muscle in absense of ramos & pepe. Big day for Nacho & Varane
Illara can give us some muscle in the midfield not sami
Ramos is out for 3 weeks
Ramos is out stupid whoscored previews....
Our manager is befuddled. He doesnt rotate which is putting players in the worn-out zone , isco , ramos(thrice) , james (twice), pepe etc. He keeps benching illara who is clearly a much better defensive option than khedira. I'm sure he will even start bale instead of jese even when latter is in better form than bale who is becoming more of a one-trick pony.
@commandozap I don't think rotation is a problem, afterall Barcelona are breathing down their necks and are in great form at the moment. They are out of the copa so this means they play less and rest more. Ramos was warned in the club world cup that this hamstring injury will come back to haunt him, but he's a passionate player who wants to be in every game. Messi has a similar problem, those players don't want to be on the bench. James was purely unlucky. I think Madrid with their best 11 are struggling and rotation may not help at this point.
@wsamara We should rest regular mids , forwards and wingbacks against bottom 10 , it will only keep the bench happy and prepared subsequently keeping the starters fresh over the course of time. Bale should be given a chance in a derby nut jese deserves to play as well
@commandozap maybe they should rest Ronaldo, he never performs in big ones anyways ;)
@wsamara Last season: Ronaldo performs well and scores again Juve, Dortmund, Bayern. So what kind of important match you want him to perform in?
@wsamara another one for you , freekick vs Arsenal in Uefa UCL Semi's. List is recurring like The Nine Unknown Men
Last time Real beat Atletico over 90 minutes was 8 matches ago.
Modric,Pepe,Ramos,James,Marcelo are 5 of Real Madrid's key players and all of them will be missing the derby. On top of that Coentrao had some injury problems, Bale and Benzema didnt look comfortable towards the end of the game vs Sevilla... not good signs, especially with the Champions League coming up.
@Turan It has been reported that James will have a surgery on the 5th metatarsal of his right foot meaning around 2 months absence. Ramos is estimated to miss 3 weeks of football. Not good news at all, if the injuries occured during the transfer window, at least a player could be loaned to replace James for the long period he will be missing. Considering Modric is still unavailable for a couple of weeks, the upcoming 4-6 games will see the team lacking balance as some key players will be missing at the same time. Hopefully no new injuries occur and everyone gets fully fit as soon as possible.
@Turan James is little weak, lacks muscular dominance and isnt as dominating as others. He should quit being a glassboy robben was.
Win here will put us on the way of becoming champions. Its toughest game of the season yet but we can do it. 1-2
2-1
CR7
@hamzaAKKA will be provoked immensely
@Imperial_J ...will provoke immensely
atleti to win this game 3-1 easily with a penaldo penalty
Real win this game easily
@mgha All depends on Isco , Casillas and Benzema
@mgha they can
@mgha I'm not sure about that, especially when Real didn't beat Atletico in the last 5 matches. Of course, Real can win, but not EASILY !