@LLCAN Well, why do you think the german league isn't that strong, because Wolfsburg didn't make it to the semifinals ?
Germany surpassed England in the UEFA CL ranking this season and are now the second best league in Europe after Spain.
And if Bayern is great is no real question. They where in the CL finals three times in the last 5 years and probably will end up being there again this season...
@neumi17- Although it's not always the best source to quote, Germany are still 3rd in the UEFA coefficient rankings according to Wikipedia which states "As of 23rd April 2015" so that has, presumably, taken into account Bayern's progression to the semi-finals. It's actually more up to date than UEFA's site. Bayern would NEED to get to the CL final for the Bundesliga to leapfrog the Prem in that case but both are far ahead of Serie A in 4th so no real danger of losing a CL spot. The UEFA (individual) club coefficient is the best indicator. The rankings are based on 5 years in Europe and go (top 10 in order): Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, Benfica, Schalke, Porto, Arsenal and Man Utd. You get some inflated ratings based on 1 great year or deflated based on 1 terrible one. I would personally go on a 3-year basis, even though it'll be to the detriment of prem teams. More accurate to the now.
@SteveHyland No, Germany has surpassed England already since Englands result from 5 years ago will be scratched next season. And because they were 3 points up to Germany that season 5 years ago, the are behind Germany in the season 15/16...
@neumi17- The rankings don't actually mean anything if it's a 5-year points system UEFA employs until the season is finished though so, even though the prem is 1.429 points behind STARTING the 2015/16 season, until it is finished it doesn't mean a thing (that is in regard to using the rankings what it was devised for- to determine how many teams are allowed to enter Europe from a league for the following season). Assuming Wikipedia have added the guaranteed points to Germany for Bayern's minimum performance for this season of losing in the semi, Bayern would need to progress in this year's competition for the Bundesliga to finish THIS 5-year cycle ('10/11 - '14/15) in 2nd. So much will happen before the end of next season that prospective rankings when the 2 are that close, can fluctuate by round unless all of 1 nation's teams are knocked out in the group stage and finish 4th in the CL groups.
@iAgx360 This is a new force in BuLi. Dortmund after first winning Bundesliga exited UCL after group stage. Next year they reached final. Quarterfinals of LE for this team is good, we'll see how they progress next year in UCL.
@radaner- No such thing as a "new force" in the Bundesliga because Bayern have the monopoly on top talent within the league and added to that, there is a culture of selling to anyone if the price is right (including to your rivals) which of course only weakens the selling team. Dortmund, as an example, got to the final 2 seasons ago but then sold Goetze to Bayern. They got to the QF last year then sold Lewandowski to Bayern and now they're 9th in the Bundesliga with half the number of points the leader has and will likely lose Hummels and/or Reus (to Bayern?). People said they were the team to challenge Bayern long-term but the unequivocal fact is that until the attitude of selling the best players changes, NO team will be able to build a team able to challenge Bayern on a long-term basis.
Napoli will go for the win, even with a 4-1 advantage, but it will not be an easy game as Wolfsburg are an excellent side. I think the game is still open but Napoli will take it seriously. The crowd is partly made up of kids from various schools around the city, so the atmosphere will not be filled to 60000, more 35-40000 and will be less intimidating, so Wolfsburg will have an easier time. I think a lot of concentration will be needed and Napoli can win by a goal.
Wolfsburg pos.2 -61points - have on Sunday a very important game with Mönchengladbach pos. 4 -54 points-, they need the 3 points to qualify the cl league. so the game have no priority to struggle here . neapels coach a cup expert will make a finish here.
statiktics shows team losing home big , also losing away big or more. in order some injuries. 5-1 for neapel
Like that Bendtner is favourite as MotM. Training session for Napoli. Wolfsburg well aware they stand no chance of progressing, must focus on Bundesliga.
I was under the impression the German league was very difficult, so.. maybe Bayern isn't that great after all.
@LLCAN Well, why do you think the german league isn't that strong, because Wolfsburg didn't make it to the semifinals ? Germany surpassed England in the UEFA CL ranking this season and are now the second best league in Europe after Spain. And if Bayern is great is no real question. They where in the CL finals three times in the last 5 years and probably will end up being there again this season...
@neumi17- Although it's not always the best source to quote, Germany are still 3rd in the UEFA coefficient rankings according to Wikipedia which states "As of 23rd April 2015" so that has, presumably, taken into account Bayern's progression to the semi-finals. It's actually more up to date than UEFA's site. Bayern would NEED to get to the CL final for the Bundesliga to leapfrog the Prem in that case but both are far ahead of Serie A in 4th so no real danger of losing a CL spot. The UEFA (individual) club coefficient is the best indicator. The rankings are based on 5 years in Europe and go (top 10 in order): Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, Benfica, Schalke, Porto, Arsenal and Man Utd. You get some inflated ratings based on 1 great year or deflated based on 1 terrible one. I would personally go on a 3-year basis, even though it'll be to the detriment of prem teams. More accurate to the now.
@SteveHyland No, Germany has surpassed England already since Englands result from 5 years ago will be scratched next season. And because they were 3 points up to Germany that season 5 years ago, the are behind Germany in the season 15/16...
@neumi17- The rankings don't actually mean anything if it's a 5-year points system UEFA employs until the season is finished though so, even though the prem is 1.429 points behind STARTING the 2015/16 season, until it is finished it doesn't mean a thing (that is in regard to using the rankings what it was devised for- to determine how many teams are allowed to enter Europe from a league for the following season). Assuming Wikipedia have added the guaranteed points to Germany for Bayern's minimum performance for this season of losing in the semi, Bayern would need to progress in this year's competition for the Bundesliga to finish THIS 5-year cycle ('10/11 - '14/15) in 2nd. So much will happen before the end of next season that prospective rankings when the 2 are that close, can fluctuate by round unless all of 1 nation's teams are knocked out in the group stage and finish 4th in the CL groups.
RIP Wolfsburg
wolfsburg is overated
@iAgx360 This is a new force in BuLi. Dortmund after first winning Bundesliga exited UCL after group stage. Next year they reached final. Quarterfinals of LE for this team is good, we'll see how they progress next year in UCL.
@radaner- No such thing as a "new force" in the Bundesliga because Bayern have the monopoly on top talent within the league and added to that, there is a culture of selling to anyone if the price is right (including to your rivals) which of course only weakens the selling team. Dortmund, as an example, got to the final 2 seasons ago but then sold Goetze to Bayern. They got to the QF last year then sold Lewandowski to Bayern and now they're 9th in the Bundesliga with half the number of points the leader has and will likely lose Hummels and/or Reus (to Bayern?). People said they were the team to challenge Bayern long-term but the unequivocal fact is that until the attitude of selling the best players changes, NO team will be able to build a team able to challenge Bayern on a long-term basis.
@iAgx360 Aren't they supposed to be the 2nd best team in Germany? Even Everton thrashed them home and away.
Napoli will go for the win, even with a 4-1 advantage, but it will not be an easy game as Wolfsburg are an excellent side. I think the game is still open but Napoli will take it seriously. The crowd is partly made up of kids from various schools around the city, so the atmosphere will not be filled to 60000, more 35-40000 and will be less intimidating, so Wolfsburg will have an easier time. I think a lot of concentration will be needed and Napoli can win by a goal.
@calciozucchini Ha,ha, your comment made my day...
@calciozucchini Napoli also has an important match at the weekend in the league fighting for the CL spot, so I see this quite tight.
Wolfsburg pos.2 -61points - have on Sunday a very important game with Mönchengladbach pos. 4 -54 points-, they need the 3 points to qualify the cl league. so the game have no priority to struggle here . neapels coach a cup expert will make a finish here. statiktics shows team losing home big , also losing away big or more. in order some injuries. 5-1 for neapel
Would suggest both teams to score as the best bet on Europa tonight, that is if you're brave enough to bet on Europa, very tricky league.
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Napoli will advance! Wolfsburg can't possibly overturn this one.
Four quick goals and Wolfsburg are back in here.
Like that Bendtner is favourite as MotM. Training session for Napoli. Wolfsburg well aware they stand no chance of progressing, must focus on Bundesliga.
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