Germany are an embarrassment. If I get into the individuals and the tactics I could write a book. There is so much wrong individually and collectively I will not even start. The cry baby that threw a massive tantrum when I said Low should be sacked after the world cup needs to get back in their box and stay their permanently. Germany lost all three games in the world cup. I know that and so do you, Sweden were robbed in every sense of the word. I know I could make this Germany team win almost every game. But as I'm not an ex-player Germany won't be looking to name me manager, so they will stay in turmoil for many years from this. Haha.
@Champion This seems to have a huge impact on you. It's about the 16 the times, that you mentioned the Ger- Sweden game in the last 4 months. Don't understand why it hit you so hard there. Germany finished last, got kicked out and Sweden advanced the next round. Why do you still complain about that game ? It didn't matter than and shure doesn't matter now anymore...
@neumi17 It's discussion. I hardly ever post, it's you that it's knocking. It's reality that's why and hid the fact they were even worse than it seemed to casual fans.
Kante is a gift. This player is on another level to everyone else protecting his back four. Matuidi is great too. To everyone on here that slagged off Kante when he first burst onto the international scene I hope you are extremely embarrassed (and been permanently banished) or woken to reality. This player is probably the eras most interesting player considering not long again he was playing non-league football and is the best player full-stop in world football. When you can carry players like Giroud up front, and play with two extremely limited full backs then you better have a special midfielder or two. In Kante and Matuidi France have that, two players that play solely and only for the team. The limited back four are also a gift and show that limited full backs are more important than attacking ones. Football is all about the back four and protecting it. This French team is a gift in the defence plus Kante and Matuidi, which let's the rest shine (bar Giroud). Excellent team.
Why did Kroos get a 8.2 rating ? he did nothing for the game, slowed the game down all the time and was very lucky to score on the penalty, since he passed the ball into the net and didn`t shoot ...
@neumi17 He's a very good player. He's just not being used properly. Poor and confused manager. You can't really hide from the stats. If Kroos plays badly it's still better than basically anyone for a playmaker midfielder..including Modric, who Kroos is better than
@neumi17 What? 6out of 9 key passes and 95% pass success rate. Compare his stats with others.
Cules have a different agenda against him so won't see what he provided.
@yash8117 6 key passes don't matter, since Germany only had 3 shots on target and 2 good scoring chances in general. Kroos slowed the game often down, when there was a counter attack situation and only played save passes. He wasn't bad but certainly not Germany's best player. The top 3 sport sites in Germany rated him as average.
@neumi17 He always makes passes if there is a pass lane. His work is to control possession first. He knows his abilities. Maybe the most intelligent passer of all time. Johan Cruyff once said, "his passes have the most perfect speed". If a pass has low probability of being completed, he won't try it. He inherits these qualities from beginning. As a CAM he had passing rate like 85%+ and still created highest chances for his team. It is Germany which sucks not finishing the chances he creates not him.He is so perfect. It was Germany's fault to not free him. He was trapped in a tightly packed diamond of France. Something which most teams like Barcelona,Atletico do. If you trap him, you trap the most creative player. In Madrid Zidane played out a perfect gameplan to get him unmarked, with Germany Low can't do that. Without him there would be no offensive danger,no possession for Germany. Just give him rest and see how your team does. He has always provided most in big tournaments.
@neumi17 Mate, Germany are utter trash but Kroos is world class. He's your only world class player. So don't complain much about him. Your team needs to be build around him. The manager is clueless.
Both penalties were wrong. Germany was the better team for a long time without being really good. But at least better than lately. Sane and Werner were really bad ( again ) as well as Kehrer. Gnabry on the other hand was the best man on the german side. France had 2 chances and scored 2 goals, Germany about 3 and scored none outof open play ...
Just play this f'in Kimmich at RB position. He sucks in midfield. Rather than breaking attacks, he tries to be overly creative.
Play a CB as CDM, most likely Sule. 4-5-1 is a better lineup for this team which can't defend on the wings. Literally both the goals were due to same problem. Once the CB drifted to create space, other time 5 players at back gave so much space to Hernandez.
Mario Gomez should've been playing if he hadn't retired.
Not talking about refs even. I feel bad for Neuer and Kroos
@yash8117 Kimmich is much better in central midfield, than as a right back. There he is defensively shakey and offensively predictable, since he can`t win 1-1 situations and only brings in crosses all the time, even if there isn`tanybody in thepenalty box.
France the ugliest, luckiest team in the world. Referees are in their pocket lmao. Germany deserves nothing though. A team that relies on a player like Werner, who's absolute trash, for 93 minutes deserves to lose.
@Lechiffre10
yes France is lucky, Matuidi fouled Hummels instead, so no penalty
and Werner is absolutely no trash, he is still young (22 yo), fast, right now the 4th best scorer in the Bundesliga
@neumi17@Champion I mean Sane's pace was a real threat like Mbappe's pace. Sometimes it is better to keep your fastest player even if he doesn't do as good as you want.
Ginter, Suele, Hummels and Kehrer all playing. Guessing a 3-4-3 with the XI Loew has picked: NEUER, KEHRER, SUELE, HUMMELS, GINTER, KIMMICH, KROOS, SCHULZ, GNABRY, WERNER, SANE. (???)
Hopeful for France win. Germany NT is self-destructing and this is karma for blaming Ozil and his religious background for crappy results. Good riddance! FRANCE ALL THE WAY!
@JosipBrozTito You are an idiot ! Not a single person in Germany ever blamed Özil for religiousreasons ! Özil was a coward, nothing more, nothing less ...
Worst scenario : Löw plays with Ginter, Hector, Can, Rudy, Werner, Müller and Uth again and wins 2-1 trough a free kick and a penalty. Than he would be seen as a genius again... Best scenario : Löw plays with those above mentioned handicaped people again and loses 0-4 already at halftime. In the second half he brings on finally Sané, Gnabry and Brandt and the score 2 goals within minutes. Final result 2-5 ... Than everyone would see, how bad Löws decision making is and he could no longer stay as a manager.
Read a few articles in the German press calling for Loew to resign but, strangely, of all the single players to receive personalised criticism it is Neuer who has had the most. Granted, he has been poor recently but he is hardly the reason why Germany fail to create anything meaningful against teams who defend well. Mueller has been crap for Germany for literally years. Hummels looked shaky in every game at the WC. Kroos is making more of an impact with his mouth nowadays than his feet. When was Boateng's last good game? I thought our sports journalists were strange.
@SteveHyland As for Kroos, he is upset because of not getting nominated for Bd'Or. Two years back he won best midfielder in the world.
Well I will defend him since he has been the best player so far for both of his teams.
@neumi17 Yep. But he still does more than all those players.
You know what, his teammates are pretty. I see him atleast 10 times getting frustrated in space not getting ball or when he has ball in space no one makes runs. I you want more than possession from him then make runs. He made some good passes. Had one of the highest keypasses, but still can do way more.
You saw him against Sevilla, how Asensio,Bale kept on missing 1v1s created by him.
Still has made 9 keypasses in 2 games in CL with a whopping 92% pass success rate. Not so bad by him.
He isn't a dribbler but he is the best passer in the game. He can certainly make most aesthetic passes but not when he has no option.
I'm impressed with what he did in the last match despite having literally no vertical options to pass. Best German player by far. Get some better and fast players in the front line to see the impact.
I just wanna know whats inside Low's head , he keep using the same players and he keeps changing players positions, he played Ginter as a right back and his original position is CB, and he keep using Kimmich as a CM and his role is a right back ,and he played Werner as a left winger and he is a striker, i can't understand what the hell he is discovering by doing that !!!! there is too many talented players he can use and there is two choices even he is a dumb and the 2nd choice he afraid to start with the youngsters , Draxler , Sane, Brandt, Gnabry, Stegen, Sule they should start, and Muller get the hell out of Germany squad
@Cannavaro69 Löw has 2 strange talents. He never nominates players when they play well and deliver but only when they are in poor shape. And secondly he than let's them play on positions , they have never been on before and are not good at those. You named a few and I will add centre midfielder Goretzka as a winger, Mario Götze as a striker, Can as a right back, Rüdiger as a left back ...
The result depends on which France will turn up. If they play like they played against Iceland, Germany have a slim chance to get a result but if France play 50% of their potential, they should win it
FRA 4:1 GER
Germoney doesnt have enough players of colour and african decent like the more advanced France and Netherlands, yet.
They should see to it, that their line-up also is at least 75% non-white and non-christian so they can still compete, and also represent the EU's spirit of diversity and anti-racism better.
France 3-1
Ignore the French draw at home to iceland as it was a friendly.France will be fired up for this to get back on track against a very poor German side.The French speed players will run riot with Mbappe fancied to get on the scoresheet.
If Löw brings on his old buddies again, puts technically limited Müller and Werner in midfield again, despite having Sané, Gnabry and Brandt on the bench, this could be his last game as a coach ...
Germany are an embarrassment. If I get into the individuals and the tactics I could write a book. There is so much wrong individually and collectively I will not even start. The cry baby that threw a massive tantrum when I said Low should be sacked after the world cup needs to get back in their box and stay their permanently. Germany lost all three games in the world cup. I know that and so do you, Sweden were robbed in every sense of the word. I know I could make this Germany team win almost every game. But as I'm not an ex-player Germany won't be looking to name me manager, so they will stay in turmoil for many years from this. Haha.
@Champion This seems to have a huge impact on you. It's about the 16 the times, that you mentioned the Ger- Sweden game in the last 4 months. Don't understand why it hit you so hard there. Germany finished last, got kicked out and Sweden advanced the next round. Why do you still complain about that game ? It didn't matter than and shure doesn't matter now anymore...
@neumi17 It's discussion. I hardly ever post, it's you that it's knocking. It's reality that's why and hid the fact they were even worse than it seemed to casual fans.
@neumi17 Maybe he is sweden. but i know he is from England, so propably his girlfriend from Sweden :)
@Cannavaro69 I am reality.
@Champion Yeah mate you are 100% right , i know that, i was just kidding with you
@Champion Yeah mate you are 100% right , i know that, i was just kidding with you
@Champion U got some fact wrong, Ger did not lost all three games in wc. Though i'm not a fan of Loew, I still believe you can only coach in game.
@congthanhgiong Germany in WC: L L L .
Kante is a gift. This player is on another level to everyone else protecting his back four. Matuidi is great too. To everyone on here that slagged off Kante when he first burst onto the international scene I hope you are extremely embarrassed (and been permanently banished) or woken to reality. This player is probably the eras most interesting player considering not long again he was playing non-league football and is the best player full-stop in world football. When you can carry players like Giroud up front, and play with two extremely limited full backs then you better have a special midfielder or two. In Kante and Matuidi France have that, two players that play solely and only for the team. The limited back four are also a gift and show that limited full backs are more important than attacking ones. Football is all about the back four and protecting it. This French team is a gift in the defence plus Kante and Matuidi, which let's the rest shine (bar Giroud). Excellent team.
Why did Kroos get a 8.2 rating ? he did nothing for the game, slowed the game down all the time and was very lucky to score on the penalty, since he passed the ball into the net and didn`t shoot ...
@neumi17 He's a very good player. He's just not being used properly. Poor and confused manager. You can't really hide from the stats. If Kroos plays badly it's still better than basically anyone for a playmaker midfielder..including Modric, who Kroos is better than
@neumi17 What? 6out of 9 key passes and 95% pass success rate. Compare his stats with others. Cules have a different agenda against him so won't see what he provided.
@yash8117 6 key passes don't matter, since Germany only had 3 shots on target and 2 good scoring chances in general. Kroos slowed the game often down, when there was a counter attack situation and only played save passes. He wasn't bad but certainly not Germany's best player. The top 3 sport sites in Germany rated him as average.
@neumi17 He always makes passes if there is a pass lane. His work is to control possession first. He knows his abilities. Maybe the most intelligent passer of all time. Johan Cruyff once said, "his passes have the most perfect speed". If a pass has low probability of being completed, he won't try it. He inherits these qualities from beginning. As a CAM he had passing rate like 85%+ and still created highest chances for his team. It is Germany which sucks not finishing the chances he creates not him.He is so perfect. It was Germany's fault to not free him. He was trapped in a tightly packed diamond of France. Something which most teams like Barcelona,Atletico do. If you trap him, you trap the most creative player. In Madrid Zidane played out a perfect gameplan to get him unmarked, with Germany Low can't do that. Without him there would be no offensive danger,no possession for Germany. Just give him rest and see how your team does. He has always provided most in big tournaments.
@neumi17 Mate, Germany are utter trash but Kroos is world class. He's your only world class player. So don't complain much about him. Your team needs to be build around him. The manager is clueless.
Both penalties were wrong. Germany was the better team for a long time without being really good. But at least better than lately. Sane and Werner were really bad ( again ) as well as Kehrer. Gnabry on the other hand was the best man on the german side. France had 2 chances and scored 2 goals, Germany about 3 and scored none outof open play ...
Just play this f'in Kimmich at RB position. He sucks in midfield. Rather than breaking attacks, he tries to be overly creative. Play a CB as CDM, most likely Sule. 4-5-1 is a better lineup for this team which can't defend on the wings. Literally both the goals were due to same problem. Once the CB drifted to create space, other time 5 players at back gave so much space to Hernandez. Mario Gomez should've been playing if he hadn't retired. Not talking about refs even. I feel bad for Neuer and Kroos
@yash8117 Kimmich is much better in central midfield, than as a right back. There he is defensively shakey and offensively predictable, since he can`t win 1-1 situations and only brings in crosses all the time, even if there isn`tanybody in thepenalty box.
@neumi17 you wont get better out of Kroos without a CDM who holds ground. Do the defensive work, Kroos will do two men offensive work alone
France the ugliest, luckiest team in the world. Referees are in their pocket lmao. Germany deserves nothing though. A team that relies on a player like Werner, who's absolute trash, for 93 minutes deserves to lose.
@Lechiffre10 yes France is lucky, Matuidi fouled Hummels instead, so no penalty and Werner is absolutely no trash, he is still young (22 yo), fast, right now the 4th best scorer in the Bundesliga
Is Low gonna be the Germany's coach for life? Sack this idiot.
@Yman f**ng genius coach. Taking Sane out for Draxler in the death. What does he smoke?
@yash8117 Sane is trash.
@yash8117 Draxler sucks but Sane wasn`tvery good either. For some reason he is never good when he plays for Germany...
@neumi17 @Champion I mean Sane's pace was a real threat like Mbappe's pace. Sometimes it is better to keep your fastest player even if he doesn't do as good as you want.
Ginter, Suele, Hummels and Kehrer all playing. Guessing a 3-4-3 with the XI Loew has picked: NEUER, KEHRER, SUELE, HUMMELS, GINTER, KIMMICH, KROOS, SCHULZ, GNABRY, WERNER, SANE. (???)
@SteveHyland Waste of time guessing manager line up. Have your own contribution here.
@SteveHyland Halleluja !
Hopeful for France win. Germany NT is self-destructing and this is karma for blaming Ozil and his religious background for crappy results. Good riddance! FRANCE ALL THE WAY!
@JosipBrozTito You are an idiot ! Not a single person in Germany ever blamed Özil for religiousreasons ! Özil was a coward, nothing more, nothing less ...
@JosipBrozTito Who was blaming Ozil for his religous background? As far as I remember problem was with him supporting Erdogan...
France went from -140 to -110...
@FutbolEZ ?
@neumi17 American ML.
Worst scenario : Löw plays with Ginter, Hector, Can, Rudy, Werner, Müller and Uth again and wins 2-1 trough a free kick and a penalty. Than he would be seen as a genius again... Best scenario : Löw plays with those above mentioned handicaped people again and loses 0-4 already at halftime. In the second half he brings on finally Sané, Gnabry and Brandt and the score 2 goals within minutes. Final result 2-5 ... Than everyone would see, how bad Löws decision making is and he could no longer stay as a manager.
4-0 for france. Loew always tries to outsmart his counterparts with his genius strange lineups and get humiliated lol
@congthanhgiong This is obviously a low scoring 1-0 win for France.
4-0 for france, another dumb lineup by Loew. He always tries to outsmart his counterparts by strange lineup and then got humulimated :D
Read a few articles in the German press calling for Loew to resign but, strangely, of all the single players to receive personalised criticism it is Neuer who has had the most. Granted, he has been poor recently but he is hardly the reason why Germany fail to create anything meaningful against teams who defend well. Mueller has been crap for Germany for literally years. Hummels looked shaky in every game at the WC. Kroos is making more of an impact with his mouth nowadays than his feet. When was Boateng's last good game? I thought our sports journalists were strange.
@SteveHyland As for Kroos, he is upset because of not getting nominated for Bd'Or. Two years back he won best midfielder in the world. Well I will defend him since he has been the best player so far for both of his teams.
@yash8117 Why do you defend him, if he plays really poorly for Germany ? Aren't you interested in the truth ?
@neumi17 Yep. But he still does more than all those players. You know what, his teammates are pretty. I see him atleast 10 times getting frustrated in space not getting ball or when he has ball in space no one makes runs. I you want more than possession from him then make runs. He made some good passes. Had one of the highest keypasses, but still can do way more. You saw him against Sevilla, how Asensio,Bale kept on missing 1v1s created by him. Still has made 9 keypasses in 2 games in CL with a whopping 92% pass success rate. Not so bad by him. He isn't a dribbler but he is the best passer in the game. He can certainly make most aesthetic passes but not when he has no option. I'm impressed with what he did in the last match despite having literally no vertical options to pass. Best German player by far. Get some better and fast players in the front line to see the impact.
@SteveHyland I thought that was strange too. After years of making insane safes Neuer made ONE mistake and immediately people want to replace him ?
@SteveHyland but for neuer there is a worldclass keeper ready to replace him, for the others not so much.
@deka641 But there is no need to replace him, the others desperately need to be replaced, that is the difference ...
@deka641- Sure, but bringing in Ter Stegen will not change the issues in the outfield so it was an odd player to single out as the problem.
2-1 france. mbappe to score anytime.
I just wanna know whats inside Low's head , he keep using the same players and he keeps changing players positions, he played Ginter as a right back and his original position is CB, and he keep using Kimmich as a CM and his role is a right back ,and he played Werner as a left winger and he is a striker, i can't understand what the hell he is discovering by doing that !!!! there is too many talented players he can use and there is two choices even he is a dumb and the 2nd choice he afraid to start with the youngsters , Draxler , Sane, Brandt, Gnabry, Stegen, Sule they should start, and Muller get the hell out of Germany squad
@Cannavaro69 Löw has 2 strange talents. He never nominates players when they play well and deliver but only when they are in poor shape. And secondly he than let's them play on positions , they have never been on before and are not good at those. You named a few and I will add centre midfielder Goretzka as a winger, Mario Götze as a striker, Can as a right back, Rüdiger as a left back ...
kylian to destroy them 2-0
3-1 Mbappe 2, Griezmann - Sané
The result depends on which France will turn up. If they play like they played against Iceland, Germany have a slim chance to get a result but if France play 50% of their potential, they should win it
FRA 4:1 GER Germoney doesnt have enough players of colour and african decent like the more advanced France and Netherlands, yet. They should see to it, that their line-up also is at least 75% non-white and non-christian so they can still compete, and also represent the EU's spirit of diversity and anti-racism better.
@SamuelKuffourMVP pathetic attempt at a joke. at least you tried to be funny, but failed
@wilde white genocide is no joke, goy.
@SamuelKuffourMVP yeah, well, do you really have to bring your white genocide and other amusing fairy tales to the FOOTBALL site?
@SamuelKuffourMVP- Ha.
France 3-1 Ignore the French draw at home to iceland as it was a friendly.France will be fired up for this to get back on track against a very poor German side.The French speed players will run riot with Mbappe fancied to get on the scoresheet.
If Löw brings on his old buddies again, puts technically limited Müller and Werner in midfield again, despite having Sané, Gnabry and Brandt on the bench, this could be his last game as a coach ...