in a realistic analysis Real madrid should see this coming ..in spain who had the best league in the world Real madrid in the last 5 years they just won 1 Laliga 1 copa del rey and 1 super cup , don't talk about the 3 champions leagues they had cause it's won by mostly luck and brilliant coaching ( it's like a 1in million chance ). and they don't have a good strikers who get goals after selling ronaldo , fainally FORZA BARCA
@arabasfuck not a real fan but wtf 3 ucl in a row was luck? Spanish football fans have no football brain all you do is hate one of this 2 teams, and all of you only believe only messi or only ronaldo is a once in a lifetime legend
I'm not sure what game WS watched, but the cameras that caught the game that I saw didn't present neither Modric nor Kroos as better than Arthur Melo. In fact, Arthur was much better than the Madrid midfielders
13 wins and only 4 defeats for Barca in the past 21 meetings. Everyone thinks the rivalry is balanced but Barca have dominated the head to head for many years now. In fact since the end of the Di Stefano era the head to head rivalry has been clearly in Barcelona's favour.
Why hasn't Suarez hitting the post being acknowledged by whoscored? It was very clear for all to see.
Suarez dragged the CB's away to leave Coutinho all the space and time he wanted for the 1st goal, caused the penalty, scored 3 goals and hit the post at minute 61. Beast mode Suarez is back!!!
@valencia00 Whoscored values dribbles a lot. But it's true that Suarez hit the post in this game and I don't see it counted. That's a serious omission. He's MOTM anyway, but guess that post would have given him a well deserved 10
@GioMonaldo you are right Gio. Let's not try to belittle Messi. He is unique. Great from Suarez today but Messi has greater all round game and we all know it.
@MrNemobody that was good tactics. I also think we should use Dembele as substitute after 60 minutes as opposition are already tired. Then after he can create problems for defenders.
@MrNemobody Because he is stupid. He always plays "safe" players over players who need game time to potentionaly become stars. Where are Gomes, Denis suarez and aleix vidal that he used to play last year? Nowhere, the same place that rafinha will be next year. Playing rafinha and el hadid before dembele and malcolm is unforgivable in my eyes
@k.1 I'm pretty sure you are the one who is stupid.... pretending to know something but fact is you are in the position you are, an expert in your own couch, while Valverde manages the best team in the world. You do the math, dummy
@tacuru87 LOL. Mine is an oppinion that many others might share. Ur's is an 6th graders auto-reply that can be inserted everytime somebody says something about any coach.
@k.1 Yeah, yours is an opinion that many others who don't coach football share. Maybe if Dembele stops being a baby and craps the bed every other match he plays he will get to see more time on the field. Until then, Rafinha at least bothers to defend and press opponents every single match.
This is almost exactly the same team that won the last 3 CL's in a row. I've been hearing that he's out by New Years, but who thinks they'll just fire the coach right now?
After CL win, Bale was against Zidane. Zidane left when he saw Ronaldo is leaving too. Zidane used Bale good, like Ronaldo, resting him at the right time, and preparing for crucial games. But Bale can't take it. What Bale did do today?. He is still suffering from injury and he always eager not to take balls and avoid the play. Real Madrid needs a good striker- Icardi if they ever want to get CL qualification next season.
@john2james Icardi was the beast against Barca mid-week in the Champions League... 5.8 I believe WhoScored rated him... a baby beast that is. Stop pretending Icardi is something he isn't. Always chokes on the national team, playing in a way inferior league than Madrid.. jeez.. Icardi can't save Real
@john2james - bale is either injured out or playing but still suffering from injury most of the time. He's hardly ever every-free. Bale can be great when on song, but you just can't count on him.
Nacho won a lottery ticket to play for Madrid. Dreams over and needs to find a club better suited for his skills. Isco is insanely overrated . Can’t last 90mins but somehow Lopetegui is his guardian angel. Doesn’t pass the ball, selfish and slows the game down over and over again. Ramos is also done clearly can’t make smart decisions considering his experience. The greatest thing Ronaldo contributed to this team is obvious. It’s not just goals but ego . Ronaldo was THE star and everyone else knew they came second . When Ronaldo left the spotlight was empty and all these egos come out and it creates this vacuum. Hazard should have been brought in at all costs and Perez should have asked Juve to include Douglas Costa in the Ronaldo transfer because Bale clearly can’t carry this team. It’s so funny seeing how fans wanted to get rid of Zidane for some of his questionable decisions but u can clearly tell Zidane knew exactly which players he could rely on
@Lechiffre10 The reason Perez sold Ronaldo and didn't buy anyone is to show Ronaldo that they can win matches without any Ronaldo. It was Perez's ego vs Ronaldo's ego. The difference is Ronaldo can backup with his performance with his ego.
@Lechiffre10 Ronaldo didn't. He wanted Real Madrid to take care of his tax issue, like Barcelona did. Not a big task, considering Real Madrid pays half the money Barcelona pays to Messi. Modric wanted to leave Inter too, but Real Madrid gave him a huge contract. So it was Perez ego to leave Ronaldo out, to show him that Real Madrid are fine without Ronaldo. Heck, he even bought UEFA award to Modric to show him that.
@john2james why should Real take care of Penaldos "tax issue" when it was Penaldo who DIDN'T PAY HIS TAXES???
Shouldn't Penaldo take care of HIS OWN tax issues?
When dumb turned slightly dumber lol
@john2james a lot of Madrid players, and coaches, have had issues with tax authorities. It’s not the clubs place to get involved and pay. Ronaldo’s lawyers and acccountants are responsible. Having Perez take care of that for him sets a very dangerous precedent. You actually think Ronaldo is in the right for this? No player is bigger than the club. It was also completely inappropriate for Ronaldo to make the CL final about him and announce his departure when his team is celebrating.
@Lechiffre10 Real Madrid is not going to get any top coach or player as long as they remember how Perez treated their all-time Legend Ronaldo in such a humiliating way.
@Lechiffre10 Enjoy 9th place. Barcelona knows how to take care of their precious jewel. Barcelona improved Messi's contract a record of 10 times. Ronaldo was offered the improved contract if they won 2 CLs back to back, but nothing happened. Talking about inappropriate. Real Madrid put a 9-minute video to their all-time top scorer and legend as a tribute, talking about inappropriate. I won't be surprised if any top players reluctant to play for Real Madrid, considering how they treat top players.
@john2james - Barcelona did NOT take care of Messi's tax issue's. When the Spanish tax agency started the claim, Messi paid put up all the claimed money up-front from his own pocket and went on with proceedings 'till the judges decided how much he had to pay. The tax agency even had to return some of the money Messi had deposited. So please explain how did Barcelona "take care of his tax issue"???
@tacuru87 By giving him bumber contract. Messi gets paid 40 million per year. At the time Ronaldo left, he was getting 22 million per year. That is 18 million more than Messi. Somebody who scored 15 goals a season in Champions league got 22 million per year..Yea.
@Lechiffre10 Modric is 33, how he got the bumper contract then?. 31 and 33 is not a big difference, considering this 33-year old scored 41 goals in 41 games this year. So it makes sense, only Madrid born players will get the better contract, others won't. That is definitely an encouragement for Neymar and Mbappe.
@john2james Modric got a bumper contract because he was earning a lot less than CR and Bale. Modric deserved he's bump. But Ronaldo was already the club's top earner, way above the rest. Rising his contract would have meant everybody else would have been knocking at the door.
@tacuru87 You mean Ronaldo earns 22 million for playing 50 games and scoring 50 goals, BTW serial injury prone Bale play 20 games and earn 20 million. what an injustice LOL.
@tacuru87 So Ronaldo was right to leave Real Madrid, because apparently, 3 month - injury prone will knocking the door for increased pay. No wonder Real Madrid is at 9th place now.
@john2james - May be I'm an awful writer, may be your reading comprehension needs to improve. Read again: Modric got a bumper contract because he was earning a lot less than CR and Bale. Or, if you preffer, Both CR and Bale's contracts were a lot more expensive than Modric's. Thus, increasing Modric's salary (to a an amount still less than Bale's wages) wouldn't rise the salary cap, and thus wouldn't have a domino effect on the rest of the squad. On the other hand, rising Ronaldo's wages (the highest paid player) would have risen the salary cap, and soon the whole squad would have been asking for a rise too. It's not that hard to understand, is it. Also, the news were that the main problem wasn't as much the amount CR was asking as the term of the contract he wanted. Anyway, all these according to Spanish media (mainly Madrid based outlets). I don't care much about these stories, I'm a cule LOL. But as an economist i do care for certain basics.
@tacuru87 You're completely right, you're absolutely an awful writer. " On the other hand, rising Ronaldo's wages (the highest paid player) would have risen the salary cap, and soon the whole squad would have been asking for a rise too." Did the whole of Barca squad came knocking after seeing Messi's ridiculous wage? Because according to your logic they should have given he was the highest paid player, and as cule u should know. But in reality the rest of both squads know that they are NOT on Messi or Ronaldo's level. If they want that kind of money, they ought to back it up with performance.
P.S I am not a Madrid or Barca fan neither do I care about Messi or CR7. I simply acknowledge that they are the jewels of today's game.
@neumi17 . "In the game I watched Barcelona had 4 shots on goal": But Barcelona scored 5 goals, not 4 goals. If you want to show your math skill, better be good at it. A Madrid fan trying to stay relevant in this thread.
@vikasjoshi9617 Is Modric playing alone for Real? Where is the best defender in the world and his colleague in best 11? Where are other Real players?
Anyway the awards were for last season not the current one.
@Nanami Messi doesn't deserve it. CR7 is the real goat for last 5 seasons. Messi deserves to get knocked out of even to 3 shortlist because he went out vs Roma, lol
@john2james i literally made an account because you are say such dumb things. You clearly have no understanding of the game and ignore any statistics that counter your view while searching for only confirmation. Nor do you realize how messi shifts for managers and the pieces in his teams. He plays well for argentina but he plays differently than he plays for barcelona because barca typically has a solid midfield so they need clinical finishing foremost, not saying he isnt an omnipresent god, check heatmap among many stats. On the other hand argentina has great center forwards and strikers though most with major flaws by now, or apparent flaws like we saw with icardi and dybala in the 2018 world cup qualification. So in order to get the most out of messi they put him in a place where they were lacking, the midfield. So what you see is more dribbles, int's and key passes. You consistently overate goals and underrate everything that goes into them and keeping them out
Just look at Comparision between strikers Benzema vs Suarez statistics here and look what it means to be real goal scorer like suarez... Benzema is awful
@stefanm - The funny thing is Benzema supporters have always claimed Karim is a better assistman, yet Suarez has a lot more assists than benzema since 214/15 (the year Suarez arrived to Barcelona). But the difference isn't just statistical (goals and assists) but in effort, grit and work-rate. Seeing Suarez effort on the pitch is contagious, seeing Benzema makes wanna throw the towel. Suarez is a leader by example (though sometimes his actions are not commendable), Benzema is the opposite.
@vikasjoshi9617 - I mean the city: Milan in English, Milano in Italian. Of course, his club is FC Internazionale Milano and nobody expects him to sign for AC Milan. Didn't expect anybody would mix them
I feel sorry for vidal. If anyone would have said that rakitic is better than him last year i would have called him crazy. I think he still is a top 5 midfielder. Dunno whats wrong with this coach
@k.1 Rakitic is a key player in Valverde's schemes. Vidal was brought to play Paulinho's old role as an impact sub. I admit he should have more minutes, and may even start in certain games to give the Croat some needed rest, but Vidal will never take Rakitic's regular starting place
@k.1 I agree Vidal is even better than Paulinho, but that's the role he was brought in to play... and everybody expects Vidal will do it even better than Paulinho did. Anyway, Rakitic plays a different, key role for Barcelona; a role that asks for a level of tactical discipline Vidal lacks. That's why Rakitic will always be a sure starter in most games as long as he's available. King Arthur will play some games to give Ivan much needed rest, but on most games he will be called to do what he did today... only hope he will be called sooner next time.
@tacuru87 Vidal is better than paulinho in every aspect of the game. He is a beast at deffending, great passer and decent goalscorer. I dont care if he is a hot-head. I am 100% sure barca would have not lost to roma if he was in the game. Barca need him. They should keep him happy
@k.1 Like I said before, i agree Vidal is even better than Paulinho... so he can do Paulinho's job even better than the Brazilian did it. Having said that, nowadays Barça's best midfield is Rakitic-Busquets-Arthur. And Vidal isn't better than any of these three guys at doing what they do for Barcelona. That's why he must be happy performing his own job (ie, Paulinho's old job). That's why Barça signed him.
@tacuru87 Vidal is not doing paulinhos job. Paulinho was getting tons of play last year. Vidal is getting NADA... even with iniesta gone. And no... this has nothing to do with arthur preforming well recently. Im talking from the start of the season.
@GioMonaldo Alba pretty much always has stellar performances, regardless if he is picked for Spain or not. He are probably the NT player that have had the highest level on average over the last 3 years and that alone makes it stupid not to play him. I love Enrique but he should leave his childish opposition against Alba at home, it's highly unprofessional. You can't like everyone but on your job, you better learn how to live with those you don't like aswell. It's a part of growing up and being mature.
@Flash_is_back - Alba surely deserves a call to his national team. He's one of the best LB in the world, and i guess he wants to be called up. But, from a selfish perspective as a Barça fan, I'd rather see Jordi resting at home while other guys risk their fitness for their NT. FCB provides more than enough many top players to different national teams during the international breaks, so keeping some at home is good for the club. After all, i'm not Spanish XP
@mystic34x I said a fact. Without Ronaldo, Real got defeated 7 times in 4 months. Barcelona without Messi has 6 defeat in 10 years. I don't understand why people commenting on football instead of name calling me. LOL.
@john2james LOL the way you bring up Ronaldo's name in this section while comparing statistics that depend on several factors other than individual contribution is pretty much an evidence of what I am trying to point here.. HAHA!! I don't undertand why people commenting on football instead of stating something irrelevant.
@mystic34x You got triggered when I said about Ronaldo, in a game where Barcelona is ra-ping Real Madrid right and left, and Real Madrid sits at 9th place, their worst in their history. 9th place.I repeat 9th place.
@Nanami - I'm glad he did not: this will shut up all those who say Barça is nothing without Leo. Besides, enraged Madrid players may have tried to seriously injure him. He'll be back soon, well rested and ready to assault the UCL.
What a performance from Barcelona. Just wanted to highlight how good Sergi Roberto was in this game. 4 key passes and two assists, played half the game as a right back. He looked more comfortable in midfield for me though.
@sonic Of course Sergi looked more comfortable in midfield: he's a midfielder by trade. Roberto was picked for RB by Luis Enrique out of lacking any other reliable candidate for the position, and has played mostly there ever since. But he has always been a midfielder.
Suarez carried Liverpool all by his own. He can do that without Messi. He is a match winner. He is not famous because biting incident. But he is a match winner.
@john2james Suarez is best #9 that excists! I will never forgive Real madrid that they didnt buy him. I remember like it was yesterday, it was in summer in 2013 when Ancelotti was coach and everything was agreed with Luis Suarez to join Madrid for 90 million euros only Ancelotti's YES was missing, and he said NO because he thought Benzema is better player.. Worst decision ever seen
@stefanm - I've always doubted that decision was really Ancelotti's. ccarlo is too experienced a head coach not to see Suarez was the best #9 in Europe. But Florentino Perez has always loved Benzema like a father loves a son, so I guess it was Perez' call really.
@john2james To be fair, Real Madrid also had plenty of good chances, enough to score 3 or 4 goals. They just didn't take their chances. If Ronaldo was there, he would have scored at least 1 of those chances, but I don't think he would have made much of a difference considering how bad Real Madrid were defensively.
@john2james I don't know... In the game I watched Barcelona had 8-4 shots on goal. Madrid wasn't as bad as the 5-1 looks like. But I understand, you don't care anyway, since you just want to troll a bit. And in trolling you do a good job, keep it up ...
@john2james Just give it up, you embarrasse yourself with your lack of mathematical capabilities in front of everyone here. If you try to troll do it at least in a smart way.
@neumi17 You said 4 shots on Target and Barcelona scored 5 goals. If you want to show your 3rd grade math skills, better learn 2rd grade math properly. I know you are angry because your team loses, take a break son.
@john2james no what he said was 8-4 shots on goal, and Barcelona being on home turf, their number shows first being 8 shots for Barcelona and 4 shots on goal for Real Madrid.
You are welcome
@john2james I believe Zidane was like 30% of the team, and Ronaldo another 20% (you can see that by watching Ronaldo playing under Benitez). So, without Ronaldo, a 80% Real Madrid would still be a very good team, but a 50% Real Madrid is a pretty average team.
@Whou Barça would usually r*ape Madrid at the Bernabeu these last years, with Cristiano Ronaldo and all. I remember a 0-4 even without Messi in the 2015-16 season.
Barça can't win without Messi they said... "Messidependencia" they said... Coutinho is a one trick pony they said... Suarez can's score any longer they said...
I wonder what will they say now.
@andrew7taylor They = the Spanish media so start with, then some media outlets from other countries too... and the gullible fans all over the world who bought these mantras.
Be sincere: how many times have you read Suarez was past it? How many times have you read Barcelona are an average side without Messi? The media has even coined a term for this: Messidependencia (meaning Barcelona totally depends on Messi). They've been talking about Messidependencia for years now, and yet...
@BeautifulLoser The girl has no problem using Ronaldo's money to enjoy life. Why do we care?, If you want to care about girls, read Yazidi girls problem.
@john2james Jumping from one unrelated statement to another unrelated statement. Please check the Wikipedia list of cognitive biases and fallacies to see where you fit in.
@BeautifulLoser What?. Now I need to discuss cognitive biases and fallacies in this thread? Aren't you the one who complained about jumping statements? Talking about leading by example.
@john2james False. Every team that messi has played including country has had a much lower win % wen messi was off the field, comparing to when ronaldo was off the field. If u think that concieding 5 goals against a messi-less barca has something to do with ronaldo than i think u have troubling problems and should go get urself checked ASAP
@k.1 Barcelona lost 6 games without Messi in the last 10 years, Real Madrid lost 7 games without Ronaldo in 4 months. Get youverself checked Messi fan.
@john2james Still false. That is not how u meassure a players impact in win/loose ratio. U cannot measure how a team does without a player when he changes the team, because this is not the same team.
I just pulled out some stats and for ur sake i hope ur brain does understand even though i know it will not accept it.
(the stats do not have last year but it still prooves my point )
Argentina with messi : 69% win / 12 % loss. Argentina without messi 34% win / 33 % loss
Portugal with ronaldo: 62% win / 19 % loss. Portugal without ronaldo 50% win / 33 % loss
Thtat is a HUUUGE impact difference. Although it is not as huge a difference with their clubs, i am 100% that messi beats ronaldo and i can pull out the stats for u if need be (i am on my phone and too lazy to do it right now).
@Genie908 Not in the Camp nou. Ronaldo always scores in Campnou. Check last year...instead of spreading lies, while sits at 12th place..No CL for next year.
@john2james Sine Suarez arrived, Barcelona has played 2 "clásicos" without Messi starting, and won them BOTH by a 4 goal margin: 04 at Bernabeu (2015/16) and today at 5-1 Camp Nou . But the media would make you believe they are totally dependant on Messi. Leo is the best player in the world, and any team would be diminished without a player like him... but Barça has a very strong squad even without their magician. Madrid's media can't swallow that pill.
@WILA7 Of course he had a big impact. But if u look at the facts, zidane had an even bigger impact so u cant attribute ronaldos departure to RM playing poorly. Ronaldo without zidane only won 1 cl and 1 liga in 6 years if i am not mistaken.
@john2james Math is not your thing, I guessed so. Madrid is 9th now and still would be, if they had lost 0-20 tonight. Do you really think people just believe your random comments ?
@neumi17 "In the game I watched Barcelona had 8-4 shots on goal"..Barcelona have 14 shots, not 8. If you want to be exact, show that first. If you want to cherry pick, better write comments backed up with stats. BTW, Real Madrid will end up 12 th place is a reality.
@john2james and under ZIDANE ERA. dont forget this! this coach managed to destroy winning team in just a few months! lopetegui OUT! Lopetegui fuera!! bring antonio conte ON!!
Nacho - guilty for first goal, partly guilty for second goal cause assist came from his side , after that to mention almost every pass was wrong by nacho, and after that he got yellow card also. What is this man playing? He is not footballer in my eyes
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Losing the best player in the world isn't easy but at least those numskullz will be hamstrung too... It might turn out to be a damp squid but the match shud expose which 10 have been enjoying their free lunches,,,
although I'm hoping to be wrong and see an entertaining match... <2.5 goals, both managers will be pissing in their pants without their teams' key men for the past decade
A Barcelona W will cement there authority in La Liga recent form and history certainly goes out the window due to reasons like no ronaldo or messi to feature, inconsistency from both sides, plenty injuries, rotations and unpredictable lineups.
in a realistic analysis Real madrid should see this coming ..in spain who had the best league in the world Real madrid in the last 5 years they just won 1 Laliga 1 copa del rey and 1 super cup , don't talk about the 3 champions leagues they had cause it's won by mostly luck and brilliant coaching ( it's like a 1in million chance ). and they don't have a good strikers who get goals after selling ronaldo , fainally FORZA BARCA
@arabasfuck not a real fan but wtf 3 ucl in a row was luck? Spanish football fans have no football brain all you do is hate one of this 2 teams, and all of you only believe only messi or only ronaldo is a once in a lifetime legend
I'm not sure what game WS watched, but the cameras that caught the game that I saw didn't present neither Modric nor Kroos as better than Arthur Melo. In fact, Arthur was much better than the Madrid midfielders
13 wins and only 4 defeats for Barca in the past 21 meetings. Everyone thinks the rivalry is balanced but Barca have dominated the head to head for many years now. In fact since the end of the Di Stefano era the head to head rivalry has been clearly in Barcelona's favour.
LMAO Isco is such a dumpster fire of a player thank God Barcelona missed him
@Lulzovich He is a world class player, but he is not a f*cking winger. Lopetegui was playing him out of position. Learn your football.
@Lulzovich without a doubt he would have been better for Barcelona than he is for Madrid, the way of play suits him better
Why hasn't Suarez hitting the post being acknowledged by whoscored? It was very clear for all to see. Suarez dragged the CB's away to leave Coutinho all the space and time he wanted for the 1st goal, caused the penalty, scored 3 goals and hit the post at minute 61. Beast mode Suarez is back!!!
Since Ronaldo left Real Madrid they've won 6 of their 14 games, losing 5.
Sergi Roberto.. what a genius
suarez hit the post in 61st min. pls add it
Real Madrid coach has just been sacked.
i'm sure if Messi scored those two goals like Suarez did tonight that he would get a 10.But this is Suarez so let's get him 9.6
@valencia00 and yellow card takes point too.
@valencia00 Whoscored values dribbles a lot. But it's true that Suarez hit the post in this game and I don't see it counted. That's a serious omission. He's MOTM anyway, but guess that post would have given him a well deserved 10
@valencia00 Unlike Suarez, Messi would have more accurate passes, more chances created and indubitably many more successful dribbles.
@GioMonaldo Unlike Suarez, Messi might have missed the penalty too
@tacuru87 Hello 2013, welcome to 2018
@GioMonaldo you are right Gio. Let's not try to belittle Messi. He is unique. Great from Suarez today but Messi has greater all round game and we all know it.
@valencia00 Ronaldo scored 2 goals, the only goals last game and Whoscored MOM was Alex Sandro who did 3 dribbles.
@john2james sandro also had more key passes and accurate crosses and the most clearances and interceptions for juve. Get out of here ronaldo fanboy
I don't get why Valverde prefers Rafinha to Dembele.
@MrNemobody that was good tactics. I also think we should use Dembele as substitute after 60 minutes as opposition are already tired. Then after he can create problems for defenders.
@MrNemobody Because he is stupid. He always plays "safe" players over players who need game time to potentionaly become stars. Where are Gomes, Denis suarez and aleix vidal that he used to play last year? Nowhere, the same place that rafinha will be next year. Playing rafinha and el hadid before dembele and malcolm is unforgivable in my eyes
@k.1 I'm pretty sure you are the one who is stupid.... pretending to know something but fact is you are in the position you are, an expert in your own couch, while Valverde manages the best team in the world. You do the math, dummy
@k.1 That's Valverde why he gets paid millions for picking players and you get nothing for it... but surely "he is stupid".
@tacuru87 LOL. Mine is an oppinion that many others might share. Ur's is an 6th graders auto-reply that can be inserted everytime somebody says something about any coach.
@k.1 Yeah, yours is an opinion that many others who don't coach football share. Maybe if Dembele stops being a baby and craps the bed every other match he plays he will get to see more time on the field. Until then, Rafinha at least bothers to defend and press opponents every single match.
@MrNemobody Cause Dembele sucks?
@MrNemobody He's not always performing like this, he's very inconsistent.
Bye Bye Lopetegi
Hi five ! Manita! OLE!
This is almost exactly the same team that won the last 3 CL's in a row. I've been hearing that he's out by New Years, but who thinks they'll just fire the coach right now?
After CL win, Bale was against Zidane. Zidane left when he saw Ronaldo is leaving too. Zidane used Bale good, like Ronaldo, resting him at the right time, and preparing for crucial games. But Bale can't take it. What Bale did do today?. He is still suffering from injury and he always eager not to take balls and avoid the play. Real Madrid needs a good striker- Icardi if they ever want to get CL qualification next season.
@john2james Icardi was the beast against Barca mid-week in the Champions League... 5.8 I believe WhoScored rated him... a baby beast that is. Stop pretending Icardi is something he isn't. Always chokes on the national team, playing in a way inferior league than Madrid.. jeez.. Icardi can't save Real
@john2james - bale is either injured out or playing but still suffering from injury most of the time. He's hardly ever every-free. Bale can be great when on song, but you just can't count on him.
Nacho won a lottery ticket to play for Madrid. Dreams over and needs to find a club better suited for his skills. Isco is insanely overrated . Can’t last 90mins but somehow Lopetegui is his guardian angel. Doesn’t pass the ball, selfish and slows the game down over and over again. Ramos is also done clearly can’t make smart decisions considering his experience. The greatest thing Ronaldo contributed to this team is obvious. It’s not just goals but ego . Ronaldo was THE star and everyone else knew they came second . When Ronaldo left the spotlight was empty and all these egos come out and it creates this vacuum. Hazard should have been brought in at all costs and Perez should have asked Juve to include Douglas Costa in the Ronaldo transfer because Bale clearly can’t carry this team. It’s so funny seeing how fans wanted to get rid of Zidane for some of his questionable decisions but u can clearly tell Zidane knew exactly which players he could rely on
@Lechiffre10 Completely agree about Isco. But Douglas Costa? Oh, come on! :-D
@Lechiffre10 The reason Perez sold Ronaldo and didn't buy anyone is to show Ronaldo that they can win matches without any Ronaldo. It was Perez's ego vs Ronaldo's ego. The difference is Ronaldo can backup with his performance with his ego.
@john2james Ronaldo wanted to leave. What part of that don’t you understand
@Lechiffre10 Ronaldo didn't. He wanted Real Madrid to take care of his tax issue, like Barcelona did. Not a big task, considering Real Madrid pays half the money Barcelona pays to Messi. Modric wanted to leave Inter too, but Real Madrid gave him a huge contract. So it was Perez ego to leave Ronaldo out, to show him that Real Madrid are fine without Ronaldo. Heck, he even bought UEFA award to Modric to show him that.
@john2james why should Real take care of Penaldos "tax issue" when it was Penaldo who DIDN'T PAY HIS TAXES??? Shouldn't Penaldo take care of HIS OWN tax issues? When dumb turned slightly dumber lol
@john2james a lot of Madrid players, and coaches, have had issues with tax authorities. It’s not the clubs place to get involved and pay. Ronaldo’s lawyers and acccountants are responsible. Having Perez take care of that for him sets a very dangerous precedent. You actually think Ronaldo is in the right for this? No player is bigger than the club. It was also completely inappropriate for Ronaldo to make the CL final about him and announce his departure when his team is celebrating.
@Lechiffre10 Real Madrid is not going to get any top coach or player as long as they remember how Perez treated their all-time Legend Ronaldo in such a humiliating way.
@john2james Sir, stop smoke crack, it's clearly messing with your head
@Lechiffre10 Enjoy 9th place. Barcelona knows how to take care of their precious jewel. Barcelona improved Messi's contract a record of 10 times. Ronaldo was offered the improved contract if they won 2 CLs back to back, but nothing happened. Talking about inappropriate. Real Madrid put a 9-minute video to their all-time top scorer and legend as a tribute, talking about inappropriate. I won't be surprised if any top players reluctant to play for Real Madrid, considering how they treat top players.
@john2james True.. you are good
@john2james - Barcelona did NOT take care of Messi's tax issue's. When the Spanish tax agency started the claim, Messi paid put up all the claimed money up-front from his own pocket and went on with proceedings 'till the judges decided how much he had to pay. The tax agency even had to return some of the money Messi had deposited. So please explain how did Barcelona "take care of his tax issue"???
@tacuru87 By giving him bumber contract. Messi gets paid 40 million per year. At the time Ronaldo left, he was getting 22 million per year. That is 18 million more than Messi. Somebody who scored 15 goals a season in Champions league got 22 million per year..Yea.
@john2james You do realize the UCL is not the only football competition Real plays in, right?
@GioMonaldo BTW, I forgot, Ronaldo scored 26 goals in 26 games in Laliga last season. A record 311 goals and 90 assist in Laliga in 292 games.
@john2james lol Messi is 31 and Ronaldo 33. Messi grew up at Barcelona . It makes sense that he would get a betterr contract .
@Lechiffre10 Modric is 33, how he got the bumper contract then?. 31 and 33 is not a big difference, considering this 33-year old scored 41 goals in 41 games this year. So it makes sense, only Madrid born players will get the better contract, others won't. That is definitely an encouragement for Neymar and Mbappe.
@john2james Modric got a bumper contract because he was earning a lot less than CR and Bale. Modric deserved he's bump. But Ronaldo was already the club's top earner, way above the rest. Rising his contract would have meant everybody else would have been knocking at the door.
@tacuru87 You mean Ronaldo earns 22 million for playing 50 games and scoring 50 goals, BTW serial injury prone Bale play 20 games and earn 20 million. what an injustice LOL.
@tacuru87 So Ronaldo was right to leave Real Madrid, because apparently, 3 month - injury prone will knocking the door for increased pay. No wonder Real Madrid is at 9th place now.
@john2james - May be I'm an awful writer, may be your reading comprehension needs to improve. Read again: Modric got a bumper contract because he was earning a lot less than CR and Bale. Or, if you preffer, Both CR and Bale's contracts were a lot more expensive than Modric's. Thus, increasing Modric's salary (to a an amount still less than Bale's wages) wouldn't rise the salary cap, and thus wouldn't have a domino effect on the rest of the squad. On the other hand, rising Ronaldo's wages (the highest paid player) would have risen the salary cap, and soon the whole squad would have been asking for a rise too. It's not that hard to understand, is it. Also, the news were that the main problem wasn't as much the amount CR was asking as the term of the contract he wanted. Anyway, all these according to Spanish media (mainly Madrid based outlets). I don't care much about these stories, I'm a cule LOL. But as an economist i do care for certain basics.
@tacuru87 You're completely right, you're absolutely an awful writer. " On the other hand, rising Ronaldo's wages (the highest paid player) would have risen the salary cap, and soon the whole squad would have been asking for a rise too." Did the whole of Barca squad came knocking after seeing Messi's ridiculous wage? Because according to your logic they should have given he was the highest paid player, and as cule u should know. But in reality the rest of both squads know that they are NOT on Messi or Ronaldo's level. If they want that kind of money, they ought to back it up with performance. P.S I am not a Madrid or Barca fan neither do I care about Messi or CR7. I simply acknowledge that they are the jewels of today's game.
The snake Courtois must return the World Cup golden glove if he has any decency.
@splint3r don't blame him, the defense was terrible
Apparently Conte has been telling people on holiday that he will be the next Real Madrid manager.
@neumi17 . "In the game I watched Barcelona had 4 shots on goal": But Barcelona scored 5 goals, not 4 goals. If you want to show your math skill, better be good at it. A Madrid fan trying to stay relevant in this thread.
Modric did robbery from Ronaldo with UEFA best player and FIFA the Best
@vikasjoshi9617 Is Modric playing alone for Real? Where is the best defender in the world and his colleague in best 11? Where are other Real players? Anyway the awards were for last season not the current one.
@vikasjoshi9617 It wasn't deserved for either. Messi is the only one who deserves it, as well as the ballon d'or.
@Nanami Messi doesn't deserve it. CR7 is the real goat for last 5 seasons. Messi deserves to get knocked out of even to 3 shortlist because he went out vs Roma, lol
@Nanami Messi deserves what?. I don't even understand why Messi got more ranks than Cavani who played better for club and country.
@john2james i literally made an account because you are say such dumb things. You clearly have no understanding of the game and ignore any statistics that counter your view while searching for only confirmation. Nor do you realize how messi shifts for managers and the pieces in his teams. He plays well for argentina but he plays differently than he plays for barcelona because barca typically has a solid midfield so they need clinical finishing foremost, not saying he isnt an omnipresent god, check heatmap among many stats. On the other hand argentina has great center forwards and strikers though most with major flaws by now, or apparent flaws like we saw with icardi and dybala in the 2018 world cup qualification. So in order to get the most out of messi they put him in a place where they were lacking, the midfield. So what you see is more dribbles, int's and key passes. You consistently overate goals and underrate everything that goes into them and keeping them out
@john2james If you think Cavani played better than Messi for his country, I've got a bridge to sell you.
@GioMonaldo Lol. Definitely not. But CR7 definitely yes
@vikasjoshi9617 LMAO CR definitely not, but Neymar and Hazard absolutely.
Everything is just ducky again. Could have been 7 or 8 for Barça.
Just look at Comparision between strikers Benzema vs Suarez statistics here and look what it means to be real goal scorer like suarez... Benzema is awful
@stefanm - The funny thing is Benzema supporters have always claimed Karim is a better assistman, yet Suarez has a lot more assists than benzema since 214/15 (the year Suarez arrived to Barcelona). But the difference isn't just statistical (goals and assists) but in effort, grit and work-rate. Seeing Suarez effort on the pitch is contagious, seeing Benzema makes wanna throw the towel. Suarez is a leader by example (though sometimes his actions are not commendable), Benzema is the opposite.
@stefanm Suarez is the leading assist maker in laliga in the last 4 years
lopetegui out, antonio conte in, benzema out icardi in
@stefanm Perez out first.
@stefanm Icardi has said multiple times he ain't leaving Milan
@tacuru87 when icardi moved to (AC) Milan? all i knew he's Inter (Milan) captain.
@tacuru87 you mean inter.
@vikasjoshi9617 - I mean the city: Milan in English, Milano in Italian. Of course, his club is FC Internazionale Milano and nobody expects him to sign for AC Milan. Didn't expect anybody would mix them
@vikasjoshi9617 He means the city. Milan has two clubs: Inter Milan and AC Milan.
I feel sorry for vidal. If anyone would have said that rakitic is better than him last year i would have called him crazy. I think he still is a top 5 midfielder. Dunno whats wrong with this coach
@k.1 if you think Vidal is better than Rakitic, delete yourself. Just stop.
@k.1 Rakitic is a key player in Valverde's schemes. Vidal was brought to play Paulinho's old role as an impact sub. I admit he should have more minutes, and may even start in certain games to give the Croat some needed rest, but Vidal will never take Rakitic's regular starting place
@tacuru87 paulinho is a poor mans vidal and he still had a huge impact on barca.. That should tell u how much vidal can do for this team
@k.1 I agree Vidal is even better than Paulinho, but that's the role he was brought in to play... and everybody expects Vidal will do it even better than Paulinho did. Anyway, Rakitic plays a different, key role for Barcelona; a role that asks for a level of tactical discipline Vidal lacks. That's why Rakitic will always be a sure starter in most games as long as he's available. King Arthur will play some games to give Ivan much needed rest, but on most games he will be called to do what he did today... only hope he will be called sooner next time.
@tacuru87 Vidal is better than paulinho in every aspect of the game. He is a beast at deffending, great passer and decent goalscorer. I dont care if he is a hot-head. I am 100% sure barca would have not lost to roma if he was in the game. Barca need him. They should keep him happy
@k.1 Like I said before, i agree Vidal is even better than Paulinho... so he can do Paulinho's job even better than the Brazilian did it. Having said that, nowadays Barça's best midfield is Rakitic-Busquets-Arthur. And Vidal isn't better than any of these three guys at doing what they do for Barcelona. That's why he must be happy performing his own job (ie, Paulinho's old job). That's why Barça signed him.
@tacuru87 Vidal is not doing paulinhos job. Paulinho was getting tons of play last year. Vidal is getting NADA... even with iniesta gone. And no... this has nothing to do with arthur preforming well recently. Im talking from the start of the season.
Enrique better sort his beef with Alba out now, way too good to not be on the nationals
@Flash_is_back Alba probably has these stellar performances precisely bc he didn't play for Spain and got plenty of rest.
@GioMonaldo Alba pretty much always has stellar performances, regardless if he is picked for Spain or not. He are probably the NT player that have had the highest level on average over the last 3 years and that alone makes it stupid not to play him. I love Enrique but he should leave his childish opposition against Alba at home, it's highly unprofessional. You can't like everyone but on your job, you better learn how to live with those you don't like aswell. It's a part of growing up and being mature.
@Flash_is_back - Alba surely deserves a call to his national team. He's one of the best LB in the world, and i guess he wants to be called up. But, from a selfish perspective as a Barça fan, I'd rather see Jordi resting at home while other guys risk their fitness for their NT. FCB provides more than enough many top players to different national teams during the international breaks, so keeping some at home is good for the club. After all, i'm not Spanish XP
@Flash_is_back nah its good.alba gets to rest
john2james making Ronaldo look good.. no problem though, RM got "raped"!
@mystic34x I said a fact. Without Ronaldo, Real got defeated 7 times in 4 months. Barcelona without Messi has 6 defeat in 10 years. I don't understand why people commenting on football instead of name calling me. LOL.
@john2james LOL the way you bring up Ronaldo's name in this section while comparing statistics that depend on several factors other than individual contribution is pretty much an evidence of what I am trying to point here.. HAHA!! I don't undertand why people commenting on football instead of stating something irrelevant.
@mystic34x You got triggered when I said about Ronaldo, in a game where Barcelona is ra-ping Real Madrid right and left, and Real Madrid sits at 9th place, their worst in their history. 9th place.I repeat 9th place.
"Ramos is the best defender in the history of football" - LOL
@MrNemobody Ramos is not defender anymore, he is false striker
Omg I wish Messi played
@Nanami - I'm glad he did not: this will shut up all those who say Barça is nothing without Leo. Besides, enraged Madrid players may have tried to seriously injure him. He'll be back soon, well rested and ready to assault the UCL.
@Nanami Why? It's even more humiliating giving them a "manita" without Messi :-D
What a performance from Barcelona. Just wanted to highlight how good Sergi Roberto was in this game. 4 key passes and two assists, played half the game as a right back. He looked more comfortable in midfield for me though.
@sonic Of course Sergi looked more comfortable in midfield: he's a midfielder by trade. Roberto was picked for RB by Luis Enrique out of lacking any other reliable candidate for the position, and has played mostly there ever since. But he has always been a midfielder.
Withou Bale it is not even a team.
@Whou They need players.
@Whou Real must bench Curtois,Chelsea fans wished for him bench,Real must respect wish of football fans.
Suarez carried Liverpool all by his own. He can do that without Messi. He is a match winner. He is not famous because biting incident. But he is a match winner.
@john2james Suarez is best #9 that excists! I will never forgive Real madrid that they didnt buy him. I remember like it was yesterday, it was in summer in 2013 when Ancelotti was coach and everything was agreed with Luis Suarez to join Madrid for 90 million euros only Ancelotti's YES was missing, and he said NO because he thought Benzema is better player.. Worst decision ever seen
@stefanm - I've always doubted that decision was really Ancelotti's. ccarlo is too experienced a head coach not to see Suarez was the best #9 in Europe. But Florentino Perez has always loved Benzema like a father loves a son, so I guess it was Perez' call really.
@stefanm I agree dude. I wanted this guy on Real Madrid. Perez don't want because of biting incident. Benzema has worse allegation than Suarez.
@john2james - Yup: biting is wrong, but blackmailing is a serious crime.
Barcelona were so unlucky today. Should have scored 10 goals. Bad luck.
@john2james To be fair, Real Madrid also had plenty of good chances, enough to score 3 or 4 goals. They just didn't take their chances. If Ronaldo was there, he would have scored at least 1 of those chances, but I don't think he would have made much of a difference considering how bad Real Madrid were defensively.
@Pico09 Ronaldo gives confidence, Confidence and attitude are contagious. Football is more than just kicking the ball with the legs.
@john2james not quite 10 but 7, absolutely
@john2james I don't know... In the game I watched Barcelona had 8-4 shots on goal. Madrid wasn't as bad as the 5-1 looks like. But I understand, you don't care anyway, since you just want to troll a bit. And in trolling you do a good job, keep it up ...
@neumi17Nice try troll. 4 shots on goal and 5 goals scored by Barcelona. Barcelona won 5-1. You can't get 5 goals with 4 shots on target. Are you ok?
@john2james Just give it up, you embarrasse yourself with your lack of mathematical capabilities in front of everyone here. If you try to troll do it at least in a smart way.
@neumi17 You said 4 shots on Target and Barcelona scored 5 goals. If you want to show your 3rd grade math skills, better learn 2rd grade math properly. I know you are angry because your team loses, take a break son.
@john2james no what he said was 8-4 shots on goal, and Barcelona being on home turf, their number shows first being 8 shots for Barcelona and 4 shots on goal for Real Madrid. You are welcome
Real Madrid coach will be sacked tonight then Conte will take over tomorrow.
@nexus747 Amen +
La manitaaaa!!!!!!!!! Vidal subs in at 84' and a couple of minujtes minute later scores the 5th: that's what I call a power sub.
Ronaldo is carrying this 12th placed laliga team to CL finals..Amazing..,.Ronaldo is the best player in History for emulating like Maradona.
@john2james I believe Zidane was like 30% of the team, and Ronaldo another 20% (you can see that by watching Ronaldo playing under Benitez). So, without Ronaldo, a 80% Real Madrid would still be a very good team, but a 50% Real Madrid is a pretty average team.
@john2james its on Lopetegui u nuts*ck!
@john2james you mean zidane?
@pasopati First Zidane win a CL without Ronaldo.
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha....ghahahahahahah-911...please...5-1...
Suarez hat-trick ... aint't the same striker so many people here said was past-it?
Looks like Ronaldo was carrying a garbage team to champions league. After he left Real Madrid shows their true colours
No Ronaldo,no game.
@Whou Barça would usually r*ape Madrid at the Bernabeu these last years, with Cristiano Ronaldo and all. I remember a 0-4 even without Messi in the 2015-16 season.
@Whou, 0-4, 5-0, 0-3 and 0-2 in UCL semifinal with Ronaldo.
@Davisson Don't forget 18 goals Ronaldo scored, the most by any Real Madrid player against Barcelona in history
@Davisson With Messi..This Barcelona is ra-ping Madrid evenwithout Messi..5-1..
I can't laugh...I think I will die..911 please ..hahahahaha
Lopetegui too greedy to get coach position at Real Madrid.. Then he get KARMA
@WILA7 lopetegui is awful hopefully this is his end in madrid
@WILA7 there is no such things as karma, he simply sucks!
Barça can't win without Messi they said... "Messidependencia" they said... Coutinho is a one trick pony they said... Suarez can's score any longer they said... I wonder what will they say now.
@tacuru87 - Who they? Stop creating enemies in your mind and just start enjoying the game for what it is.
@andrew7taylor They = the Spanish media so start with, then some media outlets from other countries too... and the gullible fans all over the world who bought these mantras. Be sincere: how many times have you read Suarez was past it? How many times have you read Barcelona are an average side without Messi? The media has even coined a term for this: Messidependencia (meaning Barcelona totally depends on Messi). They've been talking about Messidependencia for years now, and yet...
@tacuru87 - Why do you care so much what other people write about your favourite team? Why don't you enjoy them for yourself?
@andrew7taylor They = the Spanish media, of course.
Luis Suarez is back!!!
Real Madrid is feeling the pain of Kathyn Myorga..lol
@john2james This is NOT funny and it is completely unrelated to the match.
@BeautifulLoser The girl has no problem using Ronaldo's money to enjoy life. Why do we care?, If you want to care about girls, read Yazidi girls problem.
@john2james Jumping from one unrelated statement to another unrelated statement. Please check the Wikipedia list of cognitive biases and fallacies to see where you fit in.
@BeautifulLoser What?. Now I need to discuss cognitive biases and fallacies in this thread? Aren't you the one who complained about jumping statements? Talking about leading by example.
Yo yo,..No messi, no problem for Barcelona...No Ronaldo full problems for Real Madrid..hahahaha
@john2james False. Every team that messi has played including country has had a much lower win % wen messi was off the field, comparing to when ronaldo was off the field. If u think that concieding 5 goals against a messi-less barca has something to do with ronaldo than i think u have troubling problems and should go get urself checked ASAP
@k.1 Barcelona lost 6 games without Messi in the last 10 years, Real Madrid lost 7 games without Ronaldo in 4 months. Get youverself checked Messi fan.
@john2james Still false. That is not how u meassure a players impact in win/loose ratio. U cannot measure how a team does without a player when he changes the team, because this is not the same team. I just pulled out some stats and for ur sake i hope ur brain does understand even though i know it will not accept it. (the stats do not have last year but it still prooves my point ) Argentina with messi : 69% win / 12 % loss. Argentina without messi 34% win / 33 % loss Portugal with ronaldo: 62% win / 19 % loss. Portugal without ronaldo 50% win / 33 % loss Thtat is a HUUUGE impact difference. Although it is not as huge a difference with their clubs, i am 100% that messi beats ronaldo and i can pull out the stats for u if need be (i am on my phone and too lazy to do it right now).
@john2james even with Ronaldo and Zidan they will lose just like last year
@Genie908 Not in the Camp nou. Ronaldo always scores in Campnou. Check last year...instead of spreading lies, while sits at 12th place..No CL for next year.
@john2james it was the first game just like this match
RM are incapable of playing possession football, what was Jullen thinking?
Barcelona without Messi in 10 years- 6 defeat. Real Madrid without Ronaldo in 6 month- 6 defeat.
@john2james Sine Suarez arrived, Barcelona has played 2 "clásicos" without Messi starting, and won them BOTH by a 4 goal margin: 04 at Bernabeu (2015/16) and today at 5-1 Camp Nou . But the media would make you believe they are totally dependant on Messi. Leo is the best player in the world, and any team would be diminished without a player like him... but Barça has a very strong squad even without their magician. Madrid's media can't swallow that pill.
Old Days Haters said that Ronaldo have no big impact at some moment. Then nowadays, they must now that Ronaldo absolutely have big impact for Madrid.
@WILA7 Real doesn't play bad just because Ronaldo isn't there anymore. It is also a factor but more severe things are going wrong obviously ...
@WILA7 Of course he had a big impact. But if u look at the facts, zidane had an even bigger impact so u cant attribute ronaldos departure to RM playing poorly. Ronaldo without zidane only won 1 cl and 1 liga in 6 years if i am not mistaken.
@k.1 Real Madrid sits at 8th place, soon to the 12th place after this game. When was the last time Real Madrid was in this position in laliga history?
@john2james Math is not your thing, I guessed so. Madrid is 9th now and still would be, if they had lost 0-20 tonight. Do you really think people just believe your random comments ?
@neumi17 "In the game I watched Barcelona had 8-4 shots on goal"..Barcelona have 14 shots, not 8. If you want to be exact, show that first. If you want to cherry pick, better write comments backed up with stats. BTW, Real Madrid will end up 12 th place is a reality.
@WILA7 and zidane too
alba responsible for both goals. One of the most important players in barca imo...
@k.1 and nacho guilty for both goals he cant be RB
@k.1 If Alba plays with Ronaldo, Ronaldo should get atleast 100 goals more.
@john2james mmmm... No. Marcelo is still better if we are only looking at offensive contribution
real madrid's midfield is so sloppy
@BarcaPlsLetMeDown They were the best during ronaldo's time.
@john2james its like you are also forgetting zidane. imagine benitez was never fired
@BarcaPlsLetMeDown Benetiz's main man was Bale...he never said ronaldo is the best...
@john2james and under ZIDANE ERA. dont forget this! this coach managed to destroy winning team in just a few months! lopetegui OUT! Lopetegui fuera!! bring antonio conte ON!!
lopeteguiOUT
Nacho - guilty for first goal, partly guilty for second goal cause assist came from his side , after that to mention almost every pass was wrong by nacho, and after that he got yellow card also. What is this man playing? He is not footballer in my eyes
CR7 said he will watch this game...:)
CR7 will be laughing inside because of Perez
Maybe the last night Lopetegui in Real Madrid..
Keylor Navas > Thibaut Courtois
@WILA7 not guilty for both goals , nacho is guilty
Both teams to score and under 3,5. I think 1-1.
Coutinho to score in the 20th minute. Please, please, please.
@Yassine_1 But he did score before the 20 th at least ... ;-)
@Yassine_1 You bet money on him scoring in the 20th minute ?
I'll be shocked if Barca do not win 2-0.
Messi will miss the next 3 weeks due to his injury.
3-0
@Algoritma At least
2-2 Both teams in poor form with poor defences.
Ladies & Gentlemen Tips for today: Crystal Palace 1X @2.10 / Real Madrid X2 @1.90 / Man United win @1.75 / Napoli win @1.65, Total odds @11.00, Good Luck Guys and enjoy your profits
@Cannavaro69 Realmadrid@ 3.75 /sevilla@1.27/Psg@1.55/Arsenal@1.78/Total 13/1
Barcelona 0-2 Madrid
@shakes it's never going to be a clean sheet for Madrid, lmao
I can take it that there will be no Messi, no Ronaldo, no Neymar, BUT NO VERMALAEN? EL CLASSICO IS NOT THE SAME WITHOUT VERMALAEN!
@fervour21 LMAO :)
@fervour21 Carvajal as well. These 2 players are the definition of El Clasico. It is not the same without them.
@uefalona LOL
OVER 2.5 GOALS.
Losing the best player in the world isn't easy but at least those numskullz will be hamstrung too... It might turn out to be a damp squid but the match shud expose which 10 have been enjoying their free lunches,,,
barcelona 2,almost three,real maybe 1,but not just.
barcelona tend to get better results at the bernabeu and real madrid also get better results at camp nou so I think maybe this is a draw
Conte terminated the deal with Chelsea ... I'm just saying so ;)
La Liga is extremely boring this season and this Gran Derbi, with teams without form and their stars, only confirms this.
Coutinho - Suarez vs Bale- isco Times have indeed changed Those two combos will decide this game
Barcelona 3 - Real Madrid 1
barca 3 real 2 !!!
Form doesn't matter in El classico..anything can happen..vis El barca
Im a huge Madrid fan, but I doubt Madrid has a chance in this game..
1-2 for real madrid here!
@stefanm E moj Stefane...
@stefanm i like ur spirit, keep ur head up, lets see how they do for the next month without their lucky charms as well...
@stefanm dont smoke every day, 4:1 or 4:2
@Pastore10 you are typical uefalona fan, where have u been in last 3 years when real madrid was winning last 3 champions league titles?
@stefanm this is not CL forum dude.
although I'm hoping to be wrong and see an entertaining match... <2.5 goals, both managers will be pissing in their pants without their teams' key men for the past decade
@pyt55 no bro, its always btts here and 3+
@stefanm Every series has its end buddy.
@afx but this one not!
A Barcelona W will cement there authority in La Liga recent form and history certainly goes out the window due to reasons like no ronaldo or messi to feature, inconsistency from both sides, plenty injuries, rotations and unpredictable lineups.
i predict a red card
(RM LOSS = Turrontegui) <--- win-win
No Messi, RM gonna win.
@dumpinator Inter fans have said the same haha
@dumpinator they have to score a goal to win it mate, 3 points not handed out for just showing up
1-1
First El classico of the season ll be interesting to watch..
@Lapulga No Midget, No Pornstar... this shud be a good 1,
@offside Dude,the match highlight was uploaded to pornhub etc..