@BeautifulLoser Partly but not wholly that. Zidane saw the writing on the wall for this group as well. Major surgery is needed. The Marcelo.Ramos/Modric/Benzema etc group are sated tired and unmotivated.....and old. Ronaldo got out as did Zidane.
How can anyone spend time arguing about Ronaldo in a Real Madrid window and then claims watching Messi game?. This Pastore guy has some mental issues. Either watch Messi's game, if u think he is the best and then argue...The irony.
Pastore10 - LOL Messi playmaker, dribbler, goalscorer=the system
If u think so, then u should be watching his game. He is playing right now. But u don't watch. U dont love Messi plays. U get bored. Thats why u are here right now/
@Pastore10 This guys Barcelona team, with Messi is playing right now. But he don't want to watch, because he don't care about football or he doesn't enjoy Messi playing. So enjoys arguing with me about Ronaldo.
@Pastore10 Messi needs to be out of Barcelona shadow to even compare with Ronaldo. VAR greatly reduced Barcelona's points. Already lost 2 games and have only 43 points, 37 points. Messi fans, please, even Messi agree without Ronaldo , Real Madrid is nothing
@john2james 37 points..VAR destroyed Barcelona's easy wins. In the last 4-5 seasons when playing against Barcelona every team will get a red card and Barcelona gets the penalty. That is changed, for the good for Laliga.
they didn't give the penalty to Getafe and on the following removed a legal goal from them, in the same day they stole from Madrid, even if Madrid sucks. LaLiga still the same
I am a Ronaldo fan, but even I didn't expect Ronaldo had this much influence on team players. Barcelona scored double more goals than Real Madrid and the goal difference b/w scored and conceded is 3, while for Barca it is 29.
@Pastore10 , Even Roma's B team silenced Messi in quarter finals in CL last year. Thats it. Outside Barcelona;s comfort zone, Messi is nothing. You can score hattricks against minows in Laliga, but hattrick CLs and hattrick 15 goals in CL in a single season is another thing.
@john2james if CR is so infuental why Juventus doesnt score more goals with him than before the CR era? Hmm? The difference is just everybody have to feed him, but the attack is not better andCR saw Real problems, the rats leave first the sinking ship, in Italy there is absolute no rival, he will win finaly championships, and he can build his marketing even without UCL, but dont forget that team played 2 finals.
@Pastore10 Real Madrid scored 100 goals or more in Laliga 8 times in history. All those 8 times are with Ronaldo. That will explain Ronaldo's influvence. Ronaldo is 34 , he can play in any system. He is the system, while Messi is pathetic, dreadful outside Barcelona. I can see why he stays with Barcelona. Juventus already got 53 points in 18 games, a record with Ronaldo...FACTS dont lie
@john2james It's not only Ronaldo. First and biggest reason is players being fed up. They have no motivation to give their all and more on the pitch. They have won 3 UCL in a row. They're washed up. Add to it Zidane's and Ronaldo's departure and you have current Real Madrid.
Perez sold Ronaldo and got 100 million. But what he doesn't understand is each Real Madrid lost atleast 50 million in value due to the current situation. Who is going to buy Asensio at 150 million now?. 20 million at the far. Not to mention the avg attendance of Madrid is now 55000. That is like 40% empty seats...Perez destroyed Madrid all by his own ego.
It's really funny watching Real players...Benzema, Modric, Kroos,etc. completely non-existant...Isco falling over the ball...LOL! I think this is more than just C.Ronaldo leaving, I feel like the chemistry in the team is simply gone...R.Madrid really needs a complete overhaul. Love Modric but I think he's just no feeling it anymore...should've let him leave this last summer...
@moo13 I can see Kroos and Benzema's ill performance. Kroos isn't played up the field and neither played with Isco. He just can't find much good outlets. Benzema also doesn't have Ronaldo to combine. Same with Marcelo or Isco. Now Benzema is more constricted. Well Modric didn't provide much with consistency in previous seasons. Probably one of the most inconsistent and this season he got one more year old.
It was like 9 players combining without bothering much about scoring plus he was always in the best position providing outlets or intelligent runs/fake runs. Now everyone has to compensate for it. And surprisingly Ronaldo has scored 14 goals unlike 4 last season.
@moo13 Ronaldo won't allow this kind of nonsense play while he is on this team. Thats why Bale said without Ronaldo, he and his teammates are relaxed. Now, look what relaxation bought.
@john2james Honestly I think Ronaldo felt it...as I said it seems to me that team chemistry is just gone...it's been fizzling out for some time now.This is why Ronaldo left IMO, he felt it and decided to just move on as he wasn't feeling it himself either.
@moo13 Ronaldo wants to end his career on Real Madrid. All he asked is, getting the pay rise, Perez promised. He didn't get it, instead Perez said Neymar can win ballondor if he plays for Real Madrid. What an insult.
imagine buying a goalkeeper when you already have keylor navas instead of finding a replacement for ronaldo lol
this might just have been the worst offseason for any club in years.
@Lulzovich Buying Courtois for 35 mil was promotion. He's only 26 and still can improve, when Keylor is already 32 so it's the real reason. But that's true, not buying anyone for Ronaldo was the biggest mistake.
@xavistu it's a very, very small promotion. plus as a goalie, keylor could probably defend at a high level for at least another 5 years. they should've taken that money and put all they had on a world class striker. (tbh i'm glad they didn't lmao)
I was going to write a comment about how lacklustre Madrid’s pressing seems (they’re letting real sociedad combine as they want) but now with Vazquez’s red card I have to write about how bad of a team Real Madrid are.
@KiraFabri he is having a good season actually, problem is LB in Real Madrid, we should have given Marcelo to Juve and to get Alex Sandro... Marcelo is finished.
@moo13 I am shocked to being shocked for not actually being shocked to you being shocked that will be shocked if I am not shocked from being shocked to have actually not being shocked as everybody else is shocked.
And by good old traditions,Perez Out,Solari Out,.
mafia's game
The moment you realize that Ronaldo was the grease that kept this machine running.
@BeautifulLoser Partly but not wholly that. Zidane saw the writing on the wall for this group as well. Major surgery is needed. The Marcelo.Ramos/Modric/Benzema etc group are sated tired and unmotivated.....and old. Ronaldo got out as did Zidane.
@iluveverton eeh,do you remember the game when real winning,they benched Ronaldo and let other player,and in last minutes they lose?
53,000 is attendance. 27,000 empty seats.
Benzema is useless
Messi is not a rat like penaldo who always leaces sinking ships
@Pastore10 Maybe real wanted to keep Ronaldo than?
So... when's Modric returning the Ballon d'Or?
How can anyone spend time arguing about Ronaldo in a Real Madrid window and then claims watching Messi game?. This Pastore guy has some mental issues. Either watch Messi's game, if u think he is the best and then argue...The irony.
@john2james i am here to destroy your penaldo nonsense lies
Pastore10 - LOL Messi playmaker, dribbler, goalscorer=the system If u think so, then u should be watching his game. He is playing right now. But u don't watch. U dont love Messi plays. U get bored. Thats why u are here right now/
@Pastore10 This guys Barcelona team, with Messi is playing right now. But he don't want to watch, because he don't care about football or he doesn't enjoy Messi playing. So enjoys arguing with me about Ronaldo.
@Pastore10 Messi needs to be out of Barcelona shadow to even compare with Ronaldo. VAR greatly reduced Barcelona's points. Already lost 2 games and have only 43 points, 37 points. Messi fans, please, even Messi agree without Ronaldo , Real Madrid is nothing
@john2james today referee steal from real madrid.... should have been 2 clear pen for real madrid.. go buy eyes bro.
@stefanm Penal madrid LOL
@john2james 37 points..VAR destroyed Barcelona's easy wins. In the last 4-5 seasons when playing against Barcelona every team will get a red card and Barcelona gets the penalty. That is changed, for the good for Laliga.
@john2james Before VAR, Barca used to rape Real Madrid. Now with VAR, BArca still rapes Real Madrid. Wow, much change.
they didn't give the penalty to Getafe and on the following removed a legal goal from them, in the same day they stole from Madrid, even if Madrid sucks. LaLiga still the same
I am a Ronaldo fan, but even I didn't expect Ronaldo had this much influence on team players. Barcelona scored double more goals than Real Madrid and the goal difference b/w scored and conceded is 3, while for Barca it is 29.
@Pastore10 , Even Roma's B team silenced Messi in quarter finals in CL last year. Thats it. Outside Barcelona;s comfort zone, Messi is nothing. You can score hattricks against minows in Laliga, but hattrick CLs and hattrick 15 goals in CL in a single season is another thing.
@john2james so you have to hate on messi just because you are a ronaldo fan? come on
@john2james if CR is so infuental why Juventus doesnt score more goals with him than before the CR era? Hmm? The difference is just everybody have to feed him, but the attack is not better andCR saw Real problems, the rats leave first the sinking ship, in Italy there is absolute no rival, he will win finaly championships, and he can build his marketing even without UCL, but dont forget that team played 2 finals.
@Pastore10 Real Madrid scored 100 goals or more in Laliga 8 times in history. All those 8 times are with Ronaldo. That will explain Ronaldo's influvence. Ronaldo is 34 , he can play in any system. He is the system, while Messi is pathetic, dreadful outside Barcelona. I can see why he stays with Barcelona. Juventus already got 53 points in 18 games, a record with Ronaldo...FACTS dont lie
@john2james You are forgetting Zidane..
@john2james It's not only Ronaldo. First and biggest reason is players being fed up. They have no motivation to give their all and more on the pitch. They have won 3 UCL in a row. They're washed up. Add to it Zidane's and Ronaldo's departure and you have current Real Madrid.
thats us out of contention for champions league, maybe now we gonna play proper footballl.
@offside - Mate they're 1 point off 4th. Out of contention?
This is Real Sociedad's first win against Real Madrid in this history. What a wonderful way to make a history at Bernabue..Congrats.
@john2james they were legit title contender when Barca was struggling to wualify for CL.
@john2james since 2004. Not history.
Perez sold Ronaldo and got 100 million. But what he doesn't understand is each Real Madrid lost atleast 50 million in value due to the current situation. Who is going to buy Asensio at 150 million now?. 20 million at the far. Not to mention the avg attendance of Madrid is now 55000. That is like 40% empty seats...Perez destroyed Madrid all by his own ego.
It's really funny watching Real players...Benzema, Modric, Kroos,etc. completely non-existant...Isco falling over the ball...LOL! I think this is more than just C.Ronaldo leaving, I feel like the chemistry in the team is simply gone...R.Madrid really needs a complete overhaul. Love Modric but I think he's just no feeling it anymore...should've let him leave this last summer...
@moo13 I can see Kroos and Benzema's ill performance. Kroos isn't played up the field and neither played with Isco. He just can't find much good outlets. Benzema also doesn't have Ronaldo to combine. Same with Marcelo or Isco. Now Benzema is more constricted. Well Modric didn't provide much with consistency in previous seasons. Probably one of the most inconsistent and this season he got one more year old. It was like 9 players combining without bothering much about scoring plus he was always in the best position providing outlets or intelligent runs/fake runs. Now everyone has to compensate for it. And surprisingly Ronaldo has scored 14 goals unlike 4 last season.
@moo13 mooooooo you barfa brick moooooo
@moo13 Ronaldo won't allow this kind of nonsense play while he is on this team. Thats why Bale said without Ronaldo, he and his teammates are relaxed. Now, look what relaxation bought.
@john2james Honestly I think Ronaldo felt it...as I said it seems to me that team chemistry is just gone...it's been fizzling out for some time now.This is why Ronaldo left IMO, he felt it and decided to just move on as he wasn't feeling it himself either.
@moo13 Ronaldo wants to end his career on Real Madrid. All he asked is, getting the pay rise, Perez promised. He didn't get it, instead Perez said Neymar can win ballondor if he plays for Real Madrid. What an insult.
@john2james That's the official story...excuse me if I take that with a grain of salt...
imagine buying a goalkeeper when you already have keylor navas instead of finding a replacement for ronaldo lol this might just have been the worst offseason for any club in years.
@Lulzovich Buying Courtois for 35 mil was promotion. He's only 26 and still can improve, when Keylor is already 32 so it's the real reason. But that's true, not buying anyone for Ronaldo was the biggest mistake.
@xavistu it's a very, very small promotion. plus as a goalie, keylor could probably defend at a high level for at least another 5 years. they should've taken that money and put all they had on a world class striker. (tbh i'm glad they didn't lmao)
Another 100% pk on Vin this time. Not taken. Wtf is VAR good for
No doubt they miss Ronaldo, but why didn't they replace him in the summer? Spent too much on Courtois to replace a 3x Champion's League winner?
@tkr ego of perez. he thinks ronaldo got his 450 goals and 150 assists is because of real madrid teammates he bought.,
I was going to write a comment about how lacklustre Madrid’s pressing seems (they’re letting real sociedad combine as they want) but now with Vazquez’s red card I have to write about how bad of a team Real Madrid are.
@leZickzack tbf they do create chances and should’ve gotten a penalty for the foul on Vinicius
I'm not even shocked anymore. I guess Real Madrid fans will have to settle for winning the UCL again.
@Boeree Ajax is too big team for them
Courtois had a last man tackle there. Good cover by him.
Can't remember when Real was this bad...wth is going on in there?!
When a team is buying Courtois - u understanding that they have zero expectations
@KiraFabri he is having a good season actually, problem is LB in Real Madrid, we should have given Marcelo to Juve and to get Alex Sandro... Marcelo is finished.
@KiraFabri one of the few solid ones actually. Love him.
Poor UEFAdrid, so pathetic
@Cannavaro69 clear pen on Ramos not given though
@Cannavaro69 so much for UEFADrid. Clear pk on Ramos not taken even with VAR.
This Real Madrid attack is toothless
@footballover they need new players in attack but president doesn't wanna spend cash.
People are so shocked nowadays.
@Davisson wht the ref just did to Casemiro is shocking...
I will be shocked if I am not shocked from being shocked to have actually not being shocked as everybody else is shocked.
@MacGoreth I am shocked you will be shocked if you won't be shocked to actually not being shocked to everyone else being shocked!
@moo13 I am shocked to being shocked for not actually being shocked to you being shocked that will be shocked if I am not shocked from being shocked to have actually not being shocked as everybody else is shocked.
@MacGoreth that actually made sense
@MacGoreth WTF !!!! )))))))))))))))))))))
EASY MOTM for vinicius here
wHaT a ShOcK!
UEFAdrid is really in a shocking mode right now, they better to get results from now on
@Cannavaro69 we are finished this season is finished for real madrid definetly
Real 4-0
REAL MADRID Courtios , Carvajal , Ramos , Varane , Kroos , Benzema , Modric , Marcelo , Casemiro , Lucas , Vinicius
2-1, 3-1.
Over 3.5 , Probably Real Madrid 3:2R.Sociedad
6-0
@angelo44 This is not a friendly match. Lol
With Bale i would go btts and home win , but as he out it can be draw as weel :/
Its a new coach for Sociedad so I can seeca draw here. I mean I will be shocked if it is not a 2-2 draw.
@BarcaPlsLetMeDown lol being shocked is trending here now
@Nanami # I'll be SHOCKED
@Cannavaro69 and I wonder y u Neva diw e of stroke #i will b shocked
@bryayz Are you a rapper? :D
2-0