@spectre08 Messi in el classicos 3761 minutes 26 goals 14 assists: 94 mins/goal or assist, Penaldo 2807 minutes 18 goals 2 assists: 140,4...not to mention how Messi dominated Ronaldo in el classicos, from CR some tap in here and there. but he was mostly invisible, unlike Messi with his at least 10 God level el classico matches
@Pastore10 Yeah, but that was ages ago. You must accept the fact that he's waning now. Beckham is waiting for him at Inter Miami, he will make MLS great again.
valverde barca was more enjoyable to watch than setien barca. approach of setien doesnt have counter attacks and directness. Pass back, back and back. Busquets is not able to shoot when he has a good view like any barca middlefielders of barca.Setien needs to use de jong for a direct football approach.
Valverde created this weak defense(!), look at in Rome(2018) and last year in Liverpool too. He wanted "slowing down the game", than the Barca players (led by Messi, Piquet) told to VALVERDE that "we were NOT PREPARED for this physical game at all"!!!
Note. When Johan Cruyff was the trainer, after 2 years he sent away EV, because Valverde was unable to adapt the required playing style, even he was too slow, plus couldn't gain strength.
When he became the new trainer of Barca he gradually SLOWED DOWN the tempo and openly criticized Cruyff, because he tried something totally different play and disconnect the required playing style of Johan. When the team played well and enjoyable that could happen, because Messi and the players did not forget what they have learned EARLIER at LA MASIA and from PEP GUARDIOLA.
What's happening now? Setien is a different trainer and character, who loves the Cruyff-method, and he has to change back many things - that takes time
@Rest2654 The time went by, as Valverde stepped down. Well known that Setien wants to follow the the Cruiff line, but neither of us know him, so predict the result.
@Fera EV style was not tika- taka and he has his own tactiacal style (aweraness and take chances like counter attacks). EV need a left winger and barca couldnt give him anyone (injured dembele and selling malcolm) . From last year they have defensive problems and board doesnt give a solution so EV always used same players. Board buy griezman with no team structual plan and he still doesnt has a proper role in team. Team need a striker who has a good pace and tactical awareness. Team need a attackimg middlefielder and they sell alena and now vidal play as winger with no pace. Barca biggest problem is the board and secondley new blood for competition in the team. And a good coach(when rivals make pressure setien doesnt has a answer like example of napoli and madrid match.
Setien = Valverde 2.0. I understand starting Vidal over Braithgoat bc he's a proven scorer, even against Madrid, but when you watch Vidal flop like a fish for an entire half and you still don't sub him off, you're clueless and must leave coaching to the pros.
Braithwaite should have started alongside Griezmann and Messi. This 4-4-2 system, with 4 centre midfielders is too slow. Well deserved victory for Real.
Pretty sure Zidane exhausted Barcelona and then took the possession easily.
It was Zidane's tactic in his last term but now his team has more energy to do it more effectively.
Could've easily controlled more possession if they wanted from start but didn't press at start, now just see the result.
Have to praise Toni. 65 out of 66 passes made, 1 assist. Best Real player and top 2 La liga player easily.
Real out of UCL with a 4-0 humiliating defeat vs CIty followed by Real dropping points to Sociedad and Valencia that's my promise I will never come back again if any of the things I mentioned above don't happen..
What a football lesson by Zidane and Real today! Great win! Excatly as I said Setien is one of the worst coaches and this current Barcelona is worst in their last decade. PS Legend says Leo is still in Casemiro pocket :DD
@CrazyBarcaFan00 Do u wanna bet with me that u will lose points next weekend against Sociedad? They are playing best football in Spain after us at the moment and they have full squad available for next game^^
@stefanm You have a harder away game vs Sociedad just after the 4-0 City trashing hehehe you will see bro enjoy your day celebrate hard because the worst part is yet to come
1 point difference could have been 6 if Celta and Levante didn't happen.. Thank God for that.. Real are out of the UCL and crucial matches coming up against Betis away Sociedad away Valencia anything can happen Laliga isn't over yet but surely Real are out of UCL..
Was the 1st goal not an own goal? And Benzema needs to stop pulling out wide all the time, he's not playing with Ronaldo any more, no one else is going to go into that central area and score the goals.
Perhaps I watched a different match but Toni Kroos is overrated here. Missed a clear chance shooting the ball far away, not accuracy on his passes. MOTM Junior Vinicious no doubt.
Vinicius lacks football IQ. Has a hard time knowing when to pass, who to pass to and makes poor decisions at the last moment. I’d like to see Zidane take Vinicius our and have Marcelo play up front and Mendy in the back.
Vinicius is runing horse without pass and shot. Kroos unready. What is the worth of playing well if the attack cant score. As with City, Barca is more dangerous.
Half game gone, and so far this doesn't feel like a classic el Classico. I'm a bit disappointed, but I had no real expectations either. Hope both teams step it up for the second half. Oh, how I hope it won't end 0-0.
Look at this: Everton-Man U; Spurs-Wolves; Real-Barca; PSV-Feyenoord; Ajax-Alkmaar --- all of them WS predict to be draws. They've sat on the fence so much they've been castrated.
@NuchalLine Im afraid not , after this horror show in last 15 min of tonight I think they will fall mentally , 0-5 for Barcelona here is my prediction right now.
@stefanm you dont see Barca playing this year, massive midfield, but very little creativity, Griezmann is good, but nothing exceptional, Messi has a thigh injury, if he plays good Baca will win if not 1:1 maximum., the others cant score goals, Real have more weapons, but lack real finisher
@Pastore10 Thats true , this is worst Barca side in last decade but we dont have anybody up there in front to score goals for us (Madrid) and that is becoming very big issue..
@Elluso250 We badly miss a real goal scorer in the team... Benzema is crap again, only 1 goal in last 9 la liga games..
In summer we should buy Lautaro or Werner or somebody like that definitely!
@stefanm Jovic last season was one of the top sensations in goalscoring in the Bundesliga. Madrid bought him and now look at his situation. No club will let us buy their star attacking player for a cheap price!
vini is quality
Does anyone know how to see the heat map of the substitutes
Pessi has bottled it again... He only needs Eibar and Mallorca to succeed...
@Uddsin Still better than Failnaldo vs Lyon, totally useless without his feeders.... :-D
@Uddsin top scores in el clasico history: i) Messi // 26 goals ii) Messi // 19 goals (since 2009) iii) Messi // 19 goals (excluding penalties) iv) Raul // 18 goals v) Penaldo // 18 goals
@murf_IE 26 goals in 43 matches is nothing to cry home about..not to mention pessi has not scored or assisted in 5 consecutive Clasicos.
@spectre08 if penaldo was top you would be talking about what a great achievement it was, facts over feelings.
@murf_IE Not really but keep on crying considering the state of ur team.
@spectre08 Not just 43 matches, 43 Clasicos! the biggest game on Earth and Messi is it's top scorer.
@spectre08 Messi in el classicos 3761 minutes 26 goals 14 assists: 94 mins/goal or assist, Penaldo 2807 minutes 18 goals 2 assists: 140,4...not to mention how Messi dominated Ronaldo in el classicos, from CR some tap in here and there. but he was mostly invisible, unlike Messi with his at least 10 God level el classico matches
@Pastore10 Yeah, but that was ages ago. You must accept the fact that he's waning now. Beckham is waiting for him at Inter Miami, he will make MLS great again.
Ronaldo can even win us games from VIP sits. 100% Legend!
valverde barca was more enjoyable to watch than setien barca. approach of setien doesnt have counter attacks and directness. Pass back, back and back. Busquets is not able to shoot when he has a good view like any barca middlefielders of barca.Setien needs to use de jong for a direct football approach.
Valverde created this weak defense(!), look at in Rome(2018) and last year in Liverpool too. He wanted "slowing down the game", than the Barca players (led by Messi, Piquet) told to VALVERDE that "we were NOT PREPARED for this physical game at all"!!! Note. When Johan Cruyff was the trainer, after 2 years he sent away EV, because Valverde was unable to adapt the required playing style, even he was too slow, plus couldn't gain strength. When he became the new trainer of Barca he gradually SLOWED DOWN the tempo and openly criticized Cruyff, because he tried something totally different play and disconnect the required playing style of Johan. When the team played well and enjoyable that could happen, because Messi and the players did not forget what they have learned EARLIER at LA MASIA and from PEP GUARDIOLA. What's happening now? Setien is a different trainer and character, who loves the Cruyff-method, and he has to change back many things - that takes time
@Fera And ı agree with you EV wasnt barca style coach but he can offer other things. ontheotherhand setien has style but with lack of his own quality
@Rest2654 The time went by, as Valverde stepped down. Well known that Setien wants to follow the the Cruiff line, but neither of us know him, so predict the result.
@Fera EV style was not tika- taka and he has his own tactiacal style (aweraness and take chances like counter attacks). EV need a left winger and barca couldnt give him anyone (injured dembele and selling malcolm) . From last year they have defensive problems and board doesnt give a solution so EV always used same players. Board buy griezman with no team structual plan and he still doesnt has a proper role in team. Team need a striker who has a good pace and tactical awareness. Team need a attackimg middlefielder and they sell alena and now vidal play as winger with no pace. Barca biggest problem is the board and secondley new blood for competition in the team. And a good coach(when rivals make pressure setien doesnt has a answer like example of napoli and madrid match.
Setien = Valverde 2.0. I understand starting Vidal over Braithgoat bc he's a proven scorer, even against Madrid, but when you watch Vidal flop like a fish for an entire half and you still don't sub him off, you're clueless and must leave coaching to the pros.
@GioMonaldo Real Madrid were deserved winners. The lower possession % and passing accuracy % a team record, the likelier they are to win.
@SeuneMilmas here you go again with your low possession agenda.
Braithwaite should have started alongside Griezmann and Messi. This 4-4-2 system, with 4 centre midfielders is too slow. Well deserved victory for Real.
No Suarez, no party
Hows carvajal MOTM Vini was tearing up that wing
@BEE10 carvajal was tearing the field
Match could've been more exciting if either of messi or arthurs goals went in , Courtois in form though
@BEE10 or Griezmann's big miss
@GioMonaldo The difference is that Griezmann is never going to score in a big game anyway.
@splint3r he already scored against Napoli, are you ok?
@GioMonaldo Tap-in.
@splint3r tap-in would've been great here too
Pretty sure Zidane exhausted Barcelona and then took the possession easily. It was Zidane's tactic in his last term but now his team has more energy to do it more effectively. Could've easily controlled more possession if they wanted from start but didn't press at start, now just see the result. Have to praise Toni. 65 out of 66 passes made, 1 assist. Best Real player and top 2 La liga player easily.
@yash8117 Still out of UCL and 1 point only
Real out of UCL with a 4-0 humiliating defeat vs CIty followed by Real dropping points to Sociedad and Valencia that's my promise I will never come back again if any of the things I mentioned above don't happen..
@CrazyBarcaFan00 so you won't come back ok bye
Sometimes I can't help thinking what Leverkusen could have been: Vidal, Carvajal, Kroos.
I thought Valverde was the master of backpassing but Setien took it to a whole new level.
Griezmann really sucks. What happened to Dembélé by the way? Is he on strike again?
@BeautifulLoser 105mil down the drain. I felt bad for him, he's such a talented player.
@BeautifulLoser Dembele is recovering from (permanent) injury, he will return to action in about 5-10 years.
What a football lesson by Zidane and Real today! Great win! Excatly as I said Setien is one of the worst coaches and this current Barcelona is worst in their last decade. PS Legend says Leo is still in Casemiro pocket :DD
@stefanm You are in for a big surprise in the coming weeks I promise
@CrazyBarcaFan00 Your promise does not mean jack.
@CrazyBarcaFan00 Do u wanna bet with me that u will lose points next weekend against Sociedad? They are playing best football in Spain after us at the moment and they have full squad available for next game^^
@stefanm You have a harder away game vs Sociedad just after the 4-0 City trashing hehehe you will see bro enjoy your day celebrate hard because the worst part is yet to come
@stefanm At Camp Nou we always win and do you want to bet me that your are out of UCL?
1 point difference could have been 6 if Celta and Levante didn't happen.. Thank God for that.. Real are out of the UCL and crucial matches coming up against Betis away Sociedad away Valencia anything can happen Laliga isn't over yet but surely Real are out of UCL..
@CrazyBarcaFan00 real still in the ucl...
@Ai27 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ah Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Hahahahahahahahahahaha Hahahahahahahahahahaha Hahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahhahagaggagaggagahahahahahah
@CrazyBarcaFan00 cry baby cry
@CrazyBarcaFan00 Cry me a river.mp3
@stefanm you will be crying rivers soon
Great play by Madrid. It seems Barcelona players were tired and exhausted. Title race is alive and well.
Was the 1st goal not an own goal? And Benzema needs to stop pulling out wide all the time, he's not playing with Ronaldo any more, no one else is going to go into that central area and score the goals.
@What4 Vinicius's shot was aimed at the goal, so it's not an own goal
@Elluso250 ah but knowing Vin JR he prob would have missed XD
I feel for Mariano. He should have got more playing time.
@john2james He really shows that he wants it, I'll give him that.
Difficult to choose between Messi, Griezou and Jong who was the worst player of the match.
@Patrikovic de jong
@Patrikovic Easy. That French fraud.
Thar was really a bad a** move, Mariano! :-D
OMG that goal from Mariano was by an accident, can't believe he wanted to kick the ball in that way. Nice attack though.
@dib same with Vinicius, only in the first goal ball was deflected by Pique, here it was ground.
Messi Hall of Shame performance
@alwatp Disagree he was well controlled by Varane & Ramos
@dib I also disagree, Messi is known for tormenting world class defenders. But there's no excuse on his poor performance.
No eibar no goals
@svetoslav Only 40 goal contribution (26 goals and 14 assists) in 40 appearances.
@MrNemobody Messi last scored against Real Madrid in 2018.
@john2james. 2017
@john2james top scores in el clasico history: i) Messi // 26 goals ii) Messi // 19 goals (since 2009) iii) Messi // 19 goals (excluding penalties) iv) Raul // 18 goals v) Ronaldo // 18 goals
Mariaaaaanooooooo!!!!
Perhaps I watched a different match but Toni Kroos is overrated here. Missed a clear chance shooting the ball far away, not accuracy on his passes. MOTM Junior Vinicious no doubt.
Viniiiiciuuuuuus!!!!!
Ronaldo sitting in the skybox, waiting for a penalty.
@Fromhell Barcelona seeing Ronaldo already accepting defeat..)
@john2james LOl with his 2/9 they cry for Ronaldo days back
@Pastore10 4/9..CL..:) oops.
@john2james In UCL? they played only in 11 do you remember? Messi was decisive everywhere, unlike Ronaldo only in preVAR UCL
Vinicius lacks football IQ. Has a hard time knowing when to pass, who to pass to and makes poor decisions at the last moment. I’d like to see Zidane take Vinicius our and have Marcelo play up front and Mendy in the back.
@Lechiffre10 Thank god, u are not the coach
@john2james He is right though.
0.0 boring match
@Biru11ven agree, snooze fest
Vinicius is runing horse without pass and shot. Kroos unready. What is the worth of playing well if the attack cant score. As with City, Barca is more dangerous.
Half game gone, and so far this doesn't feel like a classic el Classico. I'm a bit disappointed, but I had no real expectations either. Hope both teams step it up for the second half. Oh, how I hope it won't end 0-0.
@Fromhell I'm pretty sure it won't end 0-0, but that doesn't change the fact that this is one of the sloppiest Clasicos ever.
Griezmann should get a haircut.
@BeautifulLoser messi should shave
@BarcaPlsLetMeDown Even Umtiti went on record saying that he hates Griezmann's hairdo.
@BeautifulLoser- Shampoo endorsements come with a cost.
@SteveHyland Hahaha! Head & Shoulders :-D
Antoine Griezmann will be playing as striker instead of out on the wing.
Messi to run rings around Real Madrids defence and Sergio Ramos to pick up the 27th red card of his career
@Nico1 lol messi is the lowest rated player
There will be a lot of goals in this game.
@nexus747 just like the game earlier in the season which ended 0-0?
@nexus747 I'll be shocked if Real didn't win 4-2.
@SeuneMilmas How often are you shocked usually?
@nikoanzai I would be shocked if I were not shocked for a day.
1x
Reals defence to strog for Barca, Bale too fast for Barcas defence. Hala Madriiiiiid!!!
La Pulga will really show them why he is called the GOAT!!!
X2
1X & BTTS
Look at this: Everton-Man U; Spurs-Wolves; Real-Barca; PSV-Feyenoord; Ajax-Alkmaar --- all of them WS predict to be draws. They've sat on the fence so much they've been castrated.
0-1 both in bad shape
pure "politically correct" draw 1-1
2-2.
1-1
Over 2.5 goals
I can see Barcelona squeezing something here. Setien will need to pick the right Line-up and look to not be on the back foot,Real are dangerous!
Real will go top
@NuchalLine Im afraid not , after this horror show in last 15 min of tonight I think they will fall mentally , 0-5 for Barcelona here is my prediction right now.
@stefanm you dont see Barca playing this year, massive midfield, but very little creativity, Griezmann is good, but nothing exceptional, Messi has a thigh injury, if he plays good Baca will win if not 1:1 maximum., the others cant score goals, Real have more weapons, but lack real finisher
@Pastore10 Thats true , this is worst Barca side in last decade but we dont have anybody up there in front to score goals for us (Madrid) and that is becoming very big issue..
@stefanm 0-5 is a bit harsh.... but as much as it hurts, I predict a 1-3 for barcelona
@Elluso250 We badly miss a real goal scorer in the team... Benzema is crap again, only 1 goal in last 9 la liga games.. In summer we should buy Lautaro or Werner or somebody like that definitely!
@stefanm Jovic last season was one of the top sensations in goalscoring in the Bundesliga. Madrid bought him and now look at his situation. No club will let us buy their star attacking player for a cheap price!
Real victory would be a miracle in Santiago Messibeu.
@Pastore10 sorry Lionaldo Messibeu
1-2
3-1. Flopessi won't have his day at the bernabeu this time.
@Elluso250 How did your Levante prediction go? LMAO
@Elluso250 you still cry after levante:-p
@lucca87 levante loss was unlucky
@NuchalLine loss is loss, there isn't something like unlucky in football, draw with celta was unlucky as well?
@lucca87 yes, unlucky for celta
2-6 Barca always win in their second home ground
Barcelona the boss of bosses on this field, 1:3
2-1