That third goal shows about what LVG's philosophy is. We had like 45 passes before we scored that goal. As Dwight yorke said That turn for 1st goal by martial is worth 30mil and same about memphis. Both link up great hopefully they will improve as season goes on.
@WazzaFC Philosophy????????? Maybe u can enlighten me??? This site even records man u showed no specific style of play.didnt see game thank god, but a turn by martial worth 30mil?????ha ha ha ha ha. a lucky win by the look of stats.
Interesting comparison between Pelle and Martial here in the stats. Frustrating to lose at home when you've scored two and hit the woodwork as a striker
@NotBiased that i cant deny. what a professional for his age!! had the pi55 taken out of him all summer by people he's ment to look upto, yet rises above it & gives his all.
@NotBiased How can you compare both? Last season, Courtois had almost nothing to do because the team was great and the defenders were very good ! And this season, he has hardly played
@Ouftey Which is the only thing Courtois has in his favour. Playing behind a solid back 4 and having nothing to do most of the game and even then he hasn't impressed. De Gea is in a similar situation now with united being more solid than last season. However whenever he has been called upon to save United he has always been there. There's a huge gulf of class between the two. Courtois looks like your average joe and De Gea can make saves for fun.
@Ouftey judge them over the last 2-3 seasons, then notice saves de gea has made leading to points attained for man u. i hate man u but credit where due & de gea has earned his accolade. courtois un proven in the prem.
@koziol.mutant no chance. not under van gals leadership he wont. henry was fathered to greatness by wenger. van gal wont even be at old trafford when martial starts to peak
@WazzaFC id shine in a sh1t team from france!! I wouldnt watch him in champs league as i never heard him mentioned ever!!!! He'll get in rooneys way of scoring goals
United have the linesman to thank for the first goal as Mata was blatantly at least 2 feet offside and Yoshida for the second one. Martial is undeservedly going to steal the headlines now if it stays this way. Good finishes on both attempts, but too easy from So'ton point of view on both goals. I hope they can come back. There is still a lot of time left.
Van Gaal should change to 4-3-3!!! it's the best formation in modern football! would give Mata and Memphis more space (and they are the most important players in United's attack) and Carrick, Schweini and herrera can control the midfield against any team in the PL...
english teams plays like cowards... I mean, you have some amazing players... use them!!(not an english speaker)
@galgadot1818 For some team 4-3-3 is the best suited formation, for others it could be 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2 or something else. But I don't think you can tell one formation is significantly better than other. I think 4-3-3 would work for Manu but more important for them is to figure out how to bring ball faster to final third. Today they have scored two lucky goals whereas Saints would have scored already three without De Gea playing for United.
@Castle I agree with most of what you said, but in most of the big teams in the world such as united 4-3-3 is the best formation right now(because of the speed of modern football). I think 4-3-3 would do exactly what you said United needed- to bring the ball faster to the final third. About the defense, in the first half blind played as a centre which he's obviously isn't, and when he moved to left back United defense where actually pretty good, and in the end southampton played on headed attempts. so I more concerned about the attack and I believe 4-3-3 is the solution
@galgadot1818 I have been very disappointed not see Herrera start more for United. Maybe LVG thinks it's too risky to play him but he could be brilliant as most advanced player of midfield-three. United really need a player who plays the ball forward quickly and doesn't always play safe. Their six goals in two matches doesn't really resemble their true form. As for Blind, he has many qualities for great center back but he isn't physical enough. Pelle shot post after simply beating him.
@Castle I agree that Mata is the creative player we need right now, we don't need another player with 90% passing accuarcy in our midfield we need one who could give a risky key pass. I think blind positioning is not so goo as well, plus, most of the strikers in the pl are physical(pelle, costa, benteke, gomis, giroud...)
but I still think herrera should play in a three players midfield and not as a no.10 so Mata and Memphis would have more space and the attacks would be faster.
btw schweini is brilliant
3 1 man u if played at old trafford as rojo gets away with murder! cant wait to see van gals tactics today! at least rogers just plays the same crap way
2 1 to one of them, hopefully not man u. carrick essencial for goals, rojo sent off for crude tackle on mane or elbowing pelle. Tadic man of match if saints to win (unless rojo hacks him down as well?) Schnid will be kept quiet, rooney will run him self into ground just to make him self a chance to score. Only player iv known to chase right back to win ball back, then set a counter attack off & be on the end of through ball to score!! Blind to slow to involve up top so man u will be short on numbers at times. free kicks or long shots for man u & saints to score on counter at lightening speed. 3 1 saints if rojo sent off around half time
@Kendev Starting Martial would allow faster attacks for United, they have moved the ball too slowly. If Saints get good crosses to the box Pelle could take advantage over Blind or Rojo. It could be 1-1.
This could be first defeat for Man U. Saints have too much firepower. They just have to work forward and they will be fine. Substituting forwards to gain momentum will start to pay off, with Jay, pelle mane and long they have good attacking choices. Man u cant produce this kind of form with that kind of players constantly. They are walking on thin line betwene failure and succes. Saints have all they are smart team with good defence top midfields and if they realize top attack. Saints can spoil day for Man u.
I'm going 2-0 Man united as the Saints aren't quite in form yet and I think the Southampton full backs will be roasted by the Man U wingers. MOTM Depay.
i am really sorry about us loosing luke shaw, it is a big blow to our defense and also to our attack because he is very effective in both areas. now rojo is in, he might play cb or lb. hope wherever he plays he can stay strong and focused, blind is very intellgent and will do well wherever he plays.#GGMU
@john666 sympathy to shaw. but man u attack so poor shaw felt he had to come central & do it him self other night! hed have scored if not hacked!rojo will get sent off
@john666- Shaw started the season very well, on international duty too. It's such a shame for a talented young player to suffer an injury like that. He can look to Ramsey as an inspiration in this regard, Aaron came back stronger (mentally as well as physically) after his injury. I think Luke will do the same. I would assume Rojo will play as CB with Blind LB until Jones is back. Rojo impressed me last season in the games he played at CB, Blind has hit his best form in his career while playing at LB/LWB so that should be fine. Fitting all the attackers in a fluid system is Van Gaal's biggest issue.
Am not happy that Man u win this match #Downunited
A martial has arrived.......................
ManU has the fewest dribbles per game of the top 40 clubs in europe ...
@neumi17 get a life
@neumi17 Out of the 98 teams in the five big leagues only 12 ! teams are worse than ManU ...
That third goal shows about what LVG's philosophy is. We had like 45 passes before we scored that goal. As Dwight yorke said That turn for 1st goal by martial is worth 30mil and same about memphis. Both link up great hopefully they will improve as season goes on.
@WazzaFC Philosophy????????? Maybe u can enlighten me??? This site even records man u showed no specific style of play.didnt see game thank god, but a turn by martial worth 30mil?????ha ha ha ha ha. a lucky win by the look of stats.
@psmartp Get a life troll we are playing not that great and 2nd in league. Your team is s**t.
Interesting comparison between Pelle and Martial here in the stats. Frustrating to lose at home when you've scored two and hit the woodwork as a striker
@TacticalMastermind not as frustrating as being beaten by man u!!!!! looks like u saints deserved points.
Martial will silence many including my. :) :) :)
@RedBlackWhite martial will rupture a tendon through over reliance from van gal & the rigours of playing for an english team.
@psmartp I put the word "will" of more . Martial only that exceeds my expectations , so far, and very happy for the victory of my team.
De Gea is the best in the league. No question about that. Courtois is not even half as good.
@NotBiased that i cant deny. what a professional for his age!! had the pi55 taken out of him all summer by people he's ment to look upto, yet rises above it & gives his all.
@NotBiased How can you compare both? Last season, Courtois had almost nothing to do because the team was great and the defenders were very good ! And this season, he has hardly played
@Ouftey Which is the only thing Courtois has in his favour. Playing behind a solid back 4 and having nothing to do most of the game and even then he hasn't impressed. De Gea is in a similar situation now with united being more solid than last season. However whenever he has been called upon to save United he has always been there. There's a huge gulf of class between the two. Courtois looks like your average joe and De Gea can make saves for fun.
@Ouftey- But the few times Courtois was called upon last season, he looked crap.
@Ouftey judge them over the last 2-3 seasons, then notice saves de gea has made leading to points attained for man u. i hate man u but credit where due & de gea has earned his accolade. courtois un proven in the prem.
de gea you are truly a player
Southampton would really deserve a point! Unbelievable saves by De Gea.
McNair new O'Shea
Martial really new HENRY :)
@koziol.mutant no chance. not under van gals leadership he wont. henry was fathered to greatness by wenger. van gal wont even be at old trafford when martial starts to peak
@koziol.mutant overhyped
Martial too good
Why wasn't Mane booked for diving?
@What4 he was on home turf????
Thats a scandal. Match fixing worthy from Yoshida
Depay is absolute garbage
@MiguelSuave He is new to league will improve as season progresses that turn for 3rd goal was absolute class.
@MiguelSuave no, he isn't
@arny.diaz.7 well the performance tell that he is a normal player, Martial is far better than Depay
@aymane.spur If you have watched him in CL he is absolute class will improve in PL. That turn for 3rd goal was absolute class.
@WazzaFC id shine in a sh1t team from france!! I wouldnt watch him in champs league as i never heard him mentioned ever!!!! He'll get in rooneys way of scoring goals
United have the linesman to thank for the first goal as Mata was blatantly at least 2 feet offside and Yoshida for the second one. Martial is undeservedly going to steal the headlines now if it stays this way. Good finishes on both attempts, but too easy from So'ton point of view on both goals. I hope they can come back. There is still a lot of time left.
kid hasn't even played 90min and has scored three goals against quality opposition. Can't wait to see this kid grow!!
Terrible pass from Yoshida, but great anticipation and calm finish from Martial.
Is Rooney on the field?
@Zee530 His hair is ...
Mata was offside in the build up. Though great composure and finish by Martial. Exciting times ahead for the lad.
martial you beauty youre proving that you are worth that price
Come on Depay its your time to shine time to step up now and save your team
Everyone wants to see Koeman thrashing Van Gall. Don't disappoint us.
Van Gaal should change to 4-3-3!!! it's the best formation in modern football! would give Mata and Memphis more space (and they are the most important players in United's attack) and Carrick, Schweini and herrera can control the midfield against any team in the PL... english teams plays like cowards... I mean, you have some amazing players... use them!!(not an english speaker)
@galgadot1818 For some team 4-3-3 is the best suited formation, for others it could be 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2 or something else. But I don't think you can tell one formation is significantly better than other. I think 4-3-3 would work for Manu but more important for them is to figure out how to bring ball faster to final third. Today they have scored two lucky goals whereas Saints would have scored already three without De Gea playing for United.
@Castle I agree with most of what you said, but in most of the big teams in the world such as united 4-3-3 is the best formation right now(because of the speed of modern football). I think 4-3-3 would do exactly what you said United needed- to bring the ball faster to the final third. About the defense, in the first half blind played as a centre which he's obviously isn't, and when he moved to left back United defense where actually pretty good, and in the end southampton played on headed attempts. so I more concerned about the attack and I believe 4-3-3 is the solution
@galgadot1818 I have been very disappointed not see Herrera start more for United. Maybe LVG thinks it's too risky to play him but he could be brilliant as most advanced player of midfield-three. United really need a player who plays the ball forward quickly and doesn't always play safe. Their six goals in two matches doesn't really resemble their true form. As for Blind, he has many qualities for great center back but he isn't physical enough. Pelle shot post after simply beating him.
@Castle I agree that Mata is the creative player we need right now, we don't need another player with 90% passing accuarcy in our midfield we need one who could give a risky key pass. I think blind positioning is not so goo as well, plus, most of the strikers in the pl are physical(pelle, costa, benteke, gomis, giroud...) but I still think herrera should play in a three players midfield and not as a no.10 so Mata and Memphis would have more space and the attacks would be faster. btw schweini is brilliant
3 1 man u if played at old trafford as rojo gets away with murder! cant wait to see van gals tactics today! at least rogers just plays the same crap way
2 1 to one of them, hopefully not man u. carrick essencial for goals, rojo sent off for crude tackle on mane or elbowing pelle. Tadic man of match if saints to win (unless rojo hacks him down as well?) Schnid will be kept quiet, rooney will run him self into ground just to make him self a chance to score. Only player iv known to chase right back to win ball back, then set a counter attack off & be on the end of through ball to score!! Blind to slow to involve up top so man u will be short on numbers at times. free kicks or long shots for man u & saints to score on counter at lightening speed. 3 1 saints if rojo sent off around half time
United to win 2-1
United to win 3-1
Mata on the RW instead of Young, would be interesting to see Rooney behind Martial and see how they link up. Will be a nice game to watch
@Kendev Starting Martial would allow faster attacks for United, they have moved the ball too slowly. If Saints get good crosses to the box Pelle could take advantage over Blind or Rojo. It could be 1-1.
UNITED to win. 0-2 #GGMU
Manchester United to win
Champions after, there is usually a loss. 0-0 or l-1. MOTM: Smalling
This could be first defeat for Man U. Saints have too much firepower. They just have to work forward and they will be fine. Substituting forwards to gain momentum will start to pay off, with Jay, pelle mane and long they have good attacking choices. Man u cant produce this kind of form with that kind of players constantly. They are walking on thin line betwene failure and succes. Saints have all they are smart team with good defence top midfields and if they realize top attack. Saints can spoil day for Man u.
@otokam love the optomism, hope its right man u skum!!!!!
@otokam "first defeat"?
I'm going 2-0 Man united as the Saints aren't quite in form yet and I think the Southampton full backs will be roasted by the Man U wingers. MOTM Depay.
@Overmars man u havnt had any wingers since giggs n konchelskis! who knows what tactics he'll adopt today val gal draws his tactics out of a hat!
i am really sorry about us loosing luke shaw, it is a big blow to our defense and also to our attack because he is very effective in both areas. now rojo is in, he might play cb or lb. hope wherever he plays he can stay strong and focused, blind is very intellgent and will do well wherever he plays.#GGMU
@john666 sympathy to shaw. but man u attack so poor shaw felt he had to come central & do it him self other night! hed have scored if not hacked!rojo will get sent off
@john666- Shaw started the season very well, on international duty too. It's such a shame for a talented young player to suffer an injury like that. He can look to Ramsey as an inspiration in this regard, Aaron came back stronger (mentally as well as physically) after his injury. I think Luke will do the same. I would assume Rojo will play as CB with Blind LB until Jones is back. Rojo impressed me last season in the games he played at CB, Blind has hit his best form in his career while playing at LB/LWB so that should be fine. Fitting all the attackers in a fluid system is Van Gaal's biggest issue.
@SteveHyland very true, thanks for the comment
3-0 to united
So'ton not there yet 1-2
Soton win or Draw , Both Teams to Score though
It'll be close, but I have to go with Southampton to edge Manchester United 14-0. Sadio Mane to score 11
@Olivier_Giroud Better 8-2 Ha Ha
@Olivier_Giroud Best comment and prediction WhoScored so far.
@Olivier_Giroud i agree with you
@Olivier_Giroud talk with sence or do not say nothing at all, smiple
@john666 democracy????
@john666 it really is 'smiple' isn't it?
@Olivier_Giroud lol , keep urself in the pitch first Dumbass
@rbk- Ha ha, that tickled me. As an Arsenal fan too.
@SteveHyland lol i'm a gunner myself
If these managers swapped teams, this would be 3-0 Soton. As it is, I'll say 1-1.