Wow… If Man United played from the start with the same intensity of the last 20 minutes they would have annihilated Spurs.
Too bad! Really feel bad for United tho. They better buy Osimhen and one more solid playmaker (that’s if they agree to forfeit European football ..
Yoro is such a baller, his composure is on another level. I think him and Dorgu were the top performers for Man United tonight.
Finally I think Athletic Bilbao would have beaten this Spurs side.
@Sputnik But I don't despise you. As a published scientist, I like your cute username reference to a landmark achievement in space exploration... my fellow traveller. : ) The hate and anger is from your side only because #TortenhamLiveInYourHeadRentFree
If just one word was enough to describe this game, it would be luck. Nothing special to see apart from Ven's clearance, horrible anti-football from both sides.
@Byakuya hence why I said Tottenham's strength is their defence, which is leagues above United's attack. Spurs' attack is trash without Maddison and Kulusevski
@KobraTHFC Your so called on-point prediction was 3-1 and you couldn't even shoot, that makes United defense even better than yours and United don't have a decent forward to prevent from scoring as well. It also includes United will get their usual pen meanwhile United played against better teams on paper and never relied on a pen to win a game, Tottenham won 2 games with pens and one of them even got you to the next round. If Johnson (Shaw) didn't score accidentally, clowns like you wouldn't exist here now so just be grateful that it was your "lucky" day and move on.
@tatoluis I said it all along. Midfields are equivalent and Tot attack vs MU defence is also balanced. Tottenham's defence is leagues above United's attackers though. Gotta capitalize on it.
@Byakuya What? To be fair I think Dorgu played well, he stopped a lot of counters and his progression though not the best but not as bad either. On the other hand, Shaw was a mess, a big problem, totally awful. Apart from that late header, he looked shaky all through.
@GoldenChest He was clearly too inexperienced to be on the pitch, was panicked in most occasions. Shaw is always a mess, plays one or two good game in a year, gets injured, plays like this under the name of getting fit and repeats the cycle. Not many to choose from so can't blame Amorim either, he could just use the subs earlier.
@Byakuya Yeah, even that Heaven guy might have played better than what Shaw displayed tonight but I guess Amorim didn’t trust him enough to play in such a big game ahead of others perhaps due to the lad’s inexperience.
MU had a much more difficult road to the finals compared to Tottenham. MU beat Real Sociedad, Lyon and Bilbao. Those are real teams and surprisingly MU managed to score a lot of goals. Meanwhile Tottenham biggest obstacle was Frankfurt, whom they beat by the skin of their teeth by scoring a goal from a penalty. Tottenham might even have better defense than MU, but only if they focus 100% on defending. I just can't see Tottenham winning, especially with key players missing. Nevertheless, games like these are crazy and anything can happen. I guess the question is can MU break the Tottenham defense, and can Tottenham punish aggression with counters
The only way United score tonight is if they get a Penalty and Bruno takes it.
Tough to see anything other than a Spuds win. Yet both these sides have been utter junk in the prem and it's not a game i'd usually expect to be good but as a cup final lets hope there's some sparks.
Ref loves a card so that's the route i'll be taking for a bet builder.
Maddison and Bergvall are both a big loss for Tottenham. Kulusevski and Spence are also both out of form. However, when it's mattered recently Tottenham have managed to deliver some decent controlled performances. United will be more dangerous and physical than Frankfurt or Bodo so Tottenham's midfield and defence will need to step up and win those second balls. Son for Tottenham and McGuire for United. Hopefully, Tottenham can keep going if it goes to extra time and Solanke (or someone unexpected like Ben Davies) can score an unexpected winner. Tottenham 2-1 United
too much at stake in United. They will have easier to buy top players if they are in CL. Tottenham will fire coach regardless it seems. Also sports-wise. No Kulusevski and Maddison are big lossses. In Man Utd all important players are fit - so substitutes can be crucial and deciding here. Should be fine macth with over 2.5 and bts. Also many corners. Man utd to lift trophy banker.
I don’t trust Tottenham more than Man Utd… Man Utd defense also shit but it’s the cup final and they will be more focused and concentrate on Tottenham counter attack.. so I would said Man Utd will edge coz they have played this field and venue before, they want to qualify UCL next season than TOT coz TOT’s manager and players don’t have wining mentality and also they have some of XI players injured and Son alone will not make differences.
If United lost the semi-final with a historic comeback from Bilbao, I think that would be still less embarrassing than losing a cup final against Tottenham so no excuses here. They gave up fighting for points in the league long ago, they can't end the season without a trophy now. Year of the underdogs, year of the birds or whatever the media wants to call it, thrust the trident to that chicken.
I expect a dominant defensive performance again from Tottenham today like the Frankfurt and Bodo games. Sarr/Bentancur to mark Fernandes out of the game, completely ruining United's attack. Pressing periodically on heavy touches, Solanke will have to destabilize their defence. United will get their usual bullsh*t penalty in the second half. Tottenham to win 3-1
@KobraTHFC Kulusevski's absence will most definitely weaken our pressing, but I hope others can make up for it. If now's not the time to leave their hearts on the pitch then idk when
The flanks are going to be the key in this game. Udogie and Porro will bomb forward but I feel the United midfield will dominate this game and the likes of Garnacho and Bruno will kill Spurs on the counter. Given United's experience in finals and Spurs lack of experience, I am expecting a 3-1 United win.
Manchester United have failed to beat Tottenham Hotspur in their last six matches.
Both teams have had similar results in those six games: two wins, one draw, and three losses each.
Looking at the head-to-head statistics, Manchester United appear to be at quite a disadvantage.
However, I believe that in a final like this, United will not be the same team we’re used to seeing.
Their performance will be unlike what we’ve seen before.
Tottenham are facing injury issues among key players, while Manchester United seem to have a more fully fit squad.
I predict this match will end with a scoreline of 3–2, with Manchester United narrowly winning in the final minutes.
Despite Tottenham having the upper hand over United in their last six encounters, this match won’t be like the others — it’s the final.
This is my vision based on the analysis of over 70,000 games, with a 65% accuracy rate.
Manchester United will win.
Kulusevski and Maddison out, if United don't win this they are losers of the decade. At least we are the definite underdogs now, less pressure on the team.
@KobraTHFC no creativity whatsoever, but at least our defence is clearly superior. Gotta have Sarr or Bentancur man-marking Bruno the whole game like Ander Herrera. Then we might have a chance.
@KobraTHFC I agree. Without Maddison, Bergvall, or a fit Kulusevski, Tottenham will likely resort to a more practical physical game like they did against Frankfurt and Bobo. It might mean a lower scoring game than many are expecting but Tottenham will be vulnerable from corners.
@Marbella There is nothing boring about Spurs. They are very entertaining to watch especially for opponents. They always attack and leave themselves open. There are few teams who have scored and conceded more goals than Tottenham.
Im afraid the absence of particularly Kulusevski and Bergvall's will be crucial. They could have meant the difference in the midfield. And the fact that Maddison won't be available either is a big blow to Spurs. I think Spurs will crumble under pressure and they've got no leader in the midfield nor in attacking department. It will be a scrappy United win with Maguire marauding in the box.
Not a prediction, but it's somewhat embarrassing that the EPL #16 and #17 plays a major European cup final. As good as the new CL format is, the fact that you get no teams relegated to the EL KO stage really lowers the quality of this competition.
@DanInter Are you suggesting that a team that hasn't won a league game in their last eight league matches shouldn't be competing in the final of the second biggest competition in Europe? LMAO United are utterly awful - I can't bring myself to watch highlights of Spurs!
@SlippinJimmy watch the Frankfurt and Bodo games if you're curious. Tottenham are mostly solid defensively and control the tempo either directly (high press and possession) or indirectly (mindful press and compact defence)
Theres a few factors that play against Spurs
1) United have been to 4 finals in 3 seasons winning 2 cups (city beat united times last season but beat them in the FA Cup final)
2) United have already won at Bilbaoa stadou in the semis, so familiar with the neutral ground the final will be played at
3) United have scored the most goals in the Europa League and are the only team in Europe that are unbeaten
4) United turn up for big matches (Players like Fernandes , Casemiro and Amad have scored or assisted in winning goals in latter stages in comps or finals)
not to mention Garnacho and Mainoo who have contributed also
5) Spurs have no recent experience of getting to finals nor players that have won trophies (Maddison and Kulu out injured no creative spark or service )
@KobraTHFC You are a Hungarian Tottenham supporter and you actually have the audacity to make fun of other clubs? You are a complete Pokémon, if ever I saw one, so shut up!
@KobraTHFC these are facts that arent disputed though this thread, and you talk like you are infallible from getting predictions wrong lol its not a big deal to get predictions wrong lol, all im doing is outlining the facts .
@FF2021 Tottenham have beaten United 3/3 times this season. They have maybe 3 players who get into Tottenham's best XI. Bruno, Casemiro, Amad - that's it. Plus United always struggle against physically dominant sides. There's a few straws you mentioned that they can clutch onto though
@UnexpectedManUFan Tottenham have played 21 cup finals across major competitions (FA Cup, League Cup, UEFA Champions League, UEFA Cup/Europa League, and European Cup Winners' Cup) and have won 17 of them. That's a success rate of 81%. United have played 37 and won 22. That's a success rate of 59.5%.
@MEHJones nice spin, spurs arent winning sh*t, I dont know where you spurs fans get this confidence from, spurs have been to 1 final in 17 years lol , for you to include finals from the 60 years prior to 2008 is wild af to proceed with your weak point lol
@IanWright I was spinning anything. I was responding directly to the statement "but it's Tottenham.... in a final" which implies Tottenham don't have a good record in finals when historically they do and overall their record is better than United's. Had the OP said Tottenham hadn't won their last four finals then it would have been a more accurate statement. Had the OP said Tottenham won the earlier version of this competition in 1984 despite having four key players injured it would also have been a more accurate statement.
It's been 17 hours since Tottenham last won a trophy. : )
@MEHJones LOL
@Sputnik It's been 17 days since Tottenham last won a trophy. : )
AHHHHHHHH
Magpies, liver birds, eagles, cockerels... Birds collective!
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Wow… If Man United played from the start with the same intensity of the last 20 minutes they would have annihilated Spurs. Too bad! Really feel bad for United tho. They better buy Osimhen and one more solid playmaker (that’s if they agree to forfeit European football .. Yoro is such a baller, his composure is on another level. I think him and Dorgu were the top performers for Man United tonight. Finally I think Athletic Bilbao would have beaten this Spurs side.
@GoldenChest if united started with the same intensity, Tottenham would've countered the sh!t out of them
@KobraTHFC @KobraTHFC Well maybe you’re right though but the intensity I meant is strictly those crosses and wing play.
Tottenham prove that this is the worst United team for some time...
The thing many people forgot is that Ange "wins in his second season".
Hope none of you guys lost too much money because I love you all.
@MEHJones good for you bro, I despise all of them. Sputnik, IanWright, FF2021 and others. Smug fking pricks all of them
@KobraTHFC We despise you too. It's mutual.
@Sputnik But I don't despise you. As a published scientist, I like your cute username reference to a landmark achievement in space exploration... my fellow traveller. : ) The hate and anger is from your side only because #TortenhamLiveInYourHeadRentFree
@MEHJones * #TottenhamLivesInYourHeadRentFree I have had many drinks at this point :)
Very intense if low quality final. United better on the day, but often that results in losing the game when it comes to one off games.
@sarigginsUSA United were terrible... Mate.
If just one word was enough to describe this game, it would be luck. Nothing special to see apart from Ven's clearance, horrible anti-football from both sides.
@Byakuya it's called "tactics" and "playing to your strengths" mate
@KobraTHFC Just one on target and it was actually Shaw's arm, pretty sure that's not classified as a strength at anywhere in the world.
@Byakuya hence why I said Tottenham's strength is their defence, which is leagues above United's attack. Spurs' attack is trash without Maddison and Kulusevski
@KobraTHFC Your so called on-point prediction was 3-1 and you couldn't even shoot, that makes United defense even better than yours and United don't have a decent forward to prevent from scoring as well. It also includes United will get their usual pen meanwhile United played against better teams on paper and never relied on a pen to win a game, Tottenham won 2 games with pens and one of them even got you to the next round. If Johnson (Shaw) didn't score accidentally, clowns like you wouldn't exist here now so just be grateful that it was your "lucky" day and move on.
Just as I predicted so far. Seems like Ange reads my comments
@KobraTHFC and now! park the bus forever
@tatoluis I said it all along. Midfields are equivalent and Tot attack vs MU defence is also balanced. Tottenham's defence is leagues above United's attackers though. Gotta capitalize on it.
What a stupid goal, but it was bound to happen considering how horrible Shaw and Dorgu doing on the pitch.
@Byakuya Also the goal was caused by poor clearance, Maguire and Onana so messy
@Byakuya What? To be fair I think Dorgu played well, he stopped a lot of counters and his progression though not the best but not as bad either. On the other hand, Shaw was a mess, a big problem, totally awful. Apart from that late header, he looked shaky all through.
@GoldenChest He was clearly too inexperienced to be on the pitch, was panicked in most occasions. Shaw is always a mess, plays one or two good game in a year, gets injured, plays like this under the name of getting fit and repeats the cycle. Not many to choose from so can't blame Amorim either, he could just use the subs earlier.
@Byakuya Yeah, even that Heaven guy might have played better than what Shaw displayed tonight but I guess Amorim didn’t trust him enough to play in such a big game ahead of others perhaps due to the lad’s inexperience.
Slightly interesting starting line up for Tottenham. No start for Son. Expect several Porro to Richarlison crosses.
What do yall think about Amad to either score or assist?
MU had a much more difficult road to the finals compared to Tottenham. MU beat Real Sociedad, Lyon and Bilbao. Those are real teams and surprisingly MU managed to score a lot of goals. Meanwhile Tottenham biggest obstacle was Frankfurt, whom they beat by the skin of their teeth by scoring a goal from a penalty. Tottenham might even have better defense than MU, but only if they focus 100% on defending. I just can't see Tottenham winning, especially with key players missing. Nevertheless, games like these are crazy and anything can happen. I guess the question is can MU break the Tottenham defense, and can Tottenham punish aggression with counters
@Johnson2 You should never be an analyst.. Man United got bailed out by the refs against 10 man Lyon, and now it's glorious to see them lose to Spurs
@Johnson2 Tottenham have been terrible this season but they were the better side against Frankfurt in both legs. They should've won by more.
A LOT OF GOALS. A LOT. MORE THAN YOU THINK.
The only way United score tonight is if they get a Penalty and Bruno takes it. Tough to see anything other than a Spuds win. Yet both these sides have been utter junk in the prem and it's not a game i'd usually expect to be good but as a cup final lets hope there's some sparks. Ref loves a card so that's the route i'll be taking for a bet builder.
Maddison and Bergvall are both a big loss for Tottenham. Kulusevski and Spence are also both out of form. However, when it's mattered recently Tottenham have managed to deliver some decent controlled performances. United will be more dangerous and physical than Frankfurt or Bodo so Tottenham's midfield and defence will need to step up and win those second balls. Son for Tottenham and McGuire for United. Hopefully, Tottenham can keep going if it goes to extra time and Solanke (or someone unexpected like Ben Davies) can score an unexpected winner. Tottenham 2-1 United
United and Tottenham have both had a lot of injury problems this season but they don't fully explain why they have also both been very bad.
As many have said (for months), it would seem typical Tottenham to beat United three times in a season only to lose to them in a final.
tottenham cheio de desfalques mas o united nao é nenhum bicho papão é spurs 2x1
too much at stake in United. They will have easier to buy top players if they are in CL. Tottenham will fire coach regardless it seems. Also sports-wise. No Kulusevski and Maddison are big lossses. In Man Utd all important players are fit - so substitutes can be crucial and deciding here. Should be fine macth with over 2.5 and bts. Also many corners. Man utd to lift trophy banker.
@koziol.mutant also keep in mind one detail - Man utd played on this stadium already.
I don’t trust Tottenham more than Man Utd… Man Utd defense also shit but it’s the cup final and they will be more focused and concentrate on Tottenham counter attack.. so I would said Man Utd will edge coz they have played this field and venue before, they want to qualify UCL next season than TOT coz TOT’s manager and players don’t have wining mentality and also they have some of XI players injured and Son alone will not make differences.
If United lost the semi-final with a historic comeback from Bilbao, I think that would be still less embarrassing than losing a cup final against Tottenham so no excuses here. They gave up fighting for points in the league long ago, they can't end the season without a trophy now. Year of the underdogs, year of the birds or whatever the media wants to call it, thrust the trident to that chicken.
17th team vs 16th team of the almighty EPL in the Europa League final :)
I expect a dominant defensive performance again from Tottenham today like the Frankfurt and Bodo games. Sarr/Bentancur to mark Fernandes out of the game, completely ruining United's attack. Pressing periodically on heavy touches, Solanke will have to destabilize their defence. United will get their usual bullsh*t penalty in the second half. Tottenham to win 3-1
@KobraTHFC Kulusevski's absence will most definitely weaken our pressing, but I hope others can make up for it. If now's not the time to leave their hearts on the pitch then idk when
The flanks are going to be the key in this game. Udogie and Porro will bomb forward but I feel the United midfield will dominate this game and the likes of Garnacho and Bruno will kill Spurs on the counter. Given United's experience in finals and Spurs lack of experience, I am expecting a 3-1 United win.
Son will be a big problem for Lindelof, hope Mazza can help.. Crazy game, might go to penalties after 1-1 or 2-2
Man Utd have not lost in 14 consecutive European games and there have been over 1.5 goals in 14 consecutive Man Utd European games.
Casemiro to score or assist.
Gooners are with our brothers Spurs
@Itsislom Not funny.
Over 2.5 goals
Spurs will win
These are 2 very careless and criminally open teams. There is no way it ends with just 1 goal. I also however predict that Man Utd will win it.
Manchester United have failed to beat Tottenham Hotspur in their last six matches. Both teams have had similar results in those six games: two wins, one draw, and three losses each. Looking at the head-to-head statistics, Manchester United appear to be at quite a disadvantage. However, I believe that in a final like this, United will not be the same team we’re used to seeing. Their performance will be unlike what we’ve seen before. Tottenham are facing injury issues among key players, while Manchester United seem to have a more fully fit squad. I predict this match will end with a scoreline of 3–2, with Manchester United narrowly winning in the final minutes. Despite Tottenham having the upper hand over United in their last six encounters, this match won’t be like the others — it’s the final. This is my vision based on the analysis of over 70,000 games, with a 65% accuracy rate. Manchester United will win.
@qqaa303408 ai said Manchester City would win the fa cup with a 3-1 score. Just sayin
@qqaa303408 '70,000 games, with a 65% accuracy' LMAO
@Marbella Tonight you will find out if it is true.
Kulusevski and Maddison out, if United don't win this they are losers of the decade. At least we are the definite underdogs now, less pressure on the team.
@KobraTHFC no creativity whatsoever, but at least our defence is clearly superior. Gotta have Sarr or Bentancur man-marking Bruno the whole game like Ander Herrera. Then we might have a chance.
@KobraTHFC I agree. Without Maddison, Bergvall, or a fit Kulusevski, Tottenham will likely resort to a more practical physical game like they did against Frankfurt and Bobo. It might mean a lower scoring game than many are expecting but Tottenham will be vulnerable from corners.
2 very poor and boring teams.Anything could happen.
@Marbella There is nothing boring about Spurs. They are very entertaining to watch especially for opponents. They always attack and leave themselves open. There are few teams who have scored and conceded more goals than Tottenham.
@GoonerRSA True. :)
Im afraid the absence of particularly Kulusevski and Bergvall's will be crucial. They could have meant the difference in the midfield. And the fact that Maddison won't be available either is a big blow to Spurs. I think Spurs will crumble under pressure and they've got no leader in the midfield nor in attacking department. It will be a scrappy United win with Maguire marauding in the box.
Not a prediction, but it's somewhat embarrassing that the EPL #16 and #17 plays a major European cup final. As good as the new CL format is, the fact that you get no teams relegated to the EL KO stage really lowers the quality of this competition.
@DanInter Are you suggesting that a team that hasn't won a league game in their last eight league matches shouldn't be competing in the final of the second biggest competition in Europe? LMAO United are utterly awful - I can't bring myself to watch highlights of Spurs!
@SlippinJimmy watch the Frankfurt and Bodo games if you're curious. Tottenham are mostly solid defensively and control the tempo either directly (high press and possession) or indirectly (mindful press and compact defence)
High scoring game. Spurs to win 4-2
Serial cup finalist vs desperate to win anything ffs. United 1-0
Everything points to united lifting the cup!!!
@IanWright lmao
Theres a few factors that play against Spurs 1) United have been to 4 finals in 3 seasons winning 2 cups (city beat united times last season but beat them in the FA Cup final) 2) United have already won at Bilbaoa stadou in the semis, so familiar with the neutral ground the final will be played at 3) United have scored the most goals in the Europa League and are the only team in Europe that are unbeaten 4) United turn up for big matches (Players like Fernandes , Casemiro and Amad have scored or assisted in winning goals in latter stages in comps or finals) not to mention Garnacho and Mainoo who have contributed also 5) Spurs have no recent experience of getting to finals nor players that have won trophies (Maddison and Kulu out injured no creative spark or service )
@FF2021 btw this is a bold one coming from someone who predicted us to lose a tie against Bozo Gimps from the backarse of Norwegia lmfao
@KobraTHFC You are a Hungarian Tottenham supporter and you actually have the audacity to make fun of other clubs? You are a complete Pokémon, if ever I saw one, so shut up!
@KobraTHFC these are facts that arent disputed though this thread, and you talk like you are infallible from getting predictions wrong lol its not a big deal to get predictions wrong lol, all im doing is outlining the facts .
@FF2021 Tottenham have beaten United 3/3 times this season. They have maybe 3 players who get into Tottenham's best XI. Bruno, Casemiro, Amad - that's it. Plus United always struggle against physically dominant sides. There's a few straws you mentioned that they can clutch onto though
United are unbeaten in Europe this season, but we all know they'll bottle it when it matters most. Tottenham to win 3-1. #Unitedy
United 1-2. Tottenham have won 3 times against them but it's Tottenham.... in a final.
@UnexpectedManUFan Tottenham have played 21 cup finals across major competitions (FA Cup, League Cup, UEFA Champions League, UEFA Cup/Europa League, and European Cup Winners' Cup) and have won 17 of them. That's a success rate of 81%. United have played 37 and won 22. That's a success rate of 59.5%.
@MEHJones Now you're just clutching at straws, mate.
@MEHJones nice spin, spurs arent winning sh*t, I dont know where you spurs fans get this confidence from, spurs have been to 1 final in 17 years lol , for you to include finals from the 60 years prior to 2008 is wild af to proceed with your weak point lol
@IanWright I was spinning anything. I was responding directly to the statement "but it's Tottenham.... in a final" which implies Tottenham don't have a good record in finals when historically they do and overall their record is better than United's. Had the OP said Tottenham hadn't won their last four finals then it would have been a more accurate statement. Had the OP said Tottenham won the earlier version of this competition in 1984 despite having four key players injured it would also have been a more accurate statement.
@MEHJones It's a joke, obviously it's not meant to be taken seriously but you had to make it statistical.
@IanWright check your facts if you think spurs have played 1 final in 17 years.
@UnexpectedManUFan lol
TOT wins
@NicoBoco :)
@NicoBoco lol
@NicoBoco No.